Muslim Child Abuse

[Napoléon]

I couldn't give two shit's about what was wrote in the fucking quran. It's the people who interpret it to commit violent acts which need to be sorted the fuck out.

[fr0d0]

Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to violence. Careful young padawan!

[Napoléon]

Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to violence. Careful young padawan!

Wait, I thought you wanted to be like this guy:

[The Grand Nudger]

Rayaan, meant to follow up with you on this, but I was lured down the rabbit hole by Statler and it totally slipped my mind.

Is there a provision in the Qu'ran that allows a wife to strike her husband, in a disciplinary manner, assuming a similar flow chart of corrective action has first been followed?

(and of course with the provision that it is permitted, but not encouraged)

[Violet]

Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to violence. Careful young padawan!

Or it could instead lead to many heated words and a ban. The difference between threatening to hurt someone and actually hurting someone is the length of the sentence: never warn people beforehand if you want a shorter sentence.

[Minimalist]

Thanks for fielding that one Rayaan. So, long story short, a husband CAN strike his wife, but he doesn't have to, and he shouldn't. That about it?

You got it.

Then again, as Min remarked in his post earlier, you can dismiss all my arguments by simply saying that the Quran was ... written by ... MEN. *facepalm*

Surely you don't think they got the woman's point-of-view, do you?

[Judas BentHer]

I've gotta say, I know I've already posted a couple of threads in quick succession on muslims, but this religion is really getting up my nose recently...

Ah, terrorism in it's infancy. Pun fully intended.

It's basic human psychological programming. Make non-compliance to the rules terrifying for fear of painful punishment.

Is there any religious tradition that's truly civilized?

[Violet]

Ah, terrorism in it's infancy. Pun fully intended.

It's basic human psychological programming. Make non-compliance to the rules terrifying for fear of painful punishment.

Is there any religious tradition that's truly civilized?

All religious traditions are civilized. How could they not be?

I don't know if I'd call it basic human psychological programing... if I see a better deal: I'm going for it. All painful punishment for acting does is move the acting out of sight.

[The Grand Nudger]

I believe Min, that muslims maintain that the Qu'ran is Allah's point of view. Just trying to get an idea of exactly who we're dealing with here. I have very little knowledge of whats in the Qu'ran specifically. I have however seen Rayaan make the statement that Islam does not condone these sorts of things. If it turns out, that the Qu'ran plainly states that a man may beat his wife, or his children, but that a man may not himself be beaten by his wife or children....it may be disingenuous to claim that the Qu'ran doesn't promote or foster these sorts of acts, that it does not promote violence or sexism. He seems to cling to the idea that it may be permitted, but not promoted. I'm not sure of the difference in the context.

I don't want to simply assume whats in the Qu'ran however...and its a very large book, so I'm asking the honest question.

[Minimalist]

I believe Min, that muslims maintain that the Qu'ran is Allah's point of view.

All of the assholes think their invisible sky daddy writes books. It's part of the delusion.