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RE: A question about original sin.
August 4, 2011 at 9:42 pm
True to me does not equal True
Here, you want to learn something, find connections? Start here.
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RE: A question about original sin.
August 4, 2011 at 9:47 pm
(August 4, 2011 at 9:28 pm)Judas BentHer Wrote: (August 3, 2011 at 6:32 pm)Salty Amy Wrote: It would all be fine if we weren't insisting in commitint the same sin over and over again...
And yet according to John the apostle, or whatever that scribes name was, there is no more sin in the world original or otherwise. Unless Jesus died a miserable failure.
John 1:29 (King James Version)
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. Do you believe it ? That is the question
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RE: A question about original sin.
August 4, 2011 at 9:48 pm
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That's not the only question CRod, how about mine; Is it true? If not, then I will casually disregard.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: A question about original sin.
August 4, 2011 at 9:54 pm
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(August 4, 2011 at 9:42 pm)Rhythm Wrote: True to me does not equal True
Here, you want to learn something, find connections? Start here.
http://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fa...thod.shtml
What is true? And what is the difference if true to me is true? Believing is true but is the belief true. Ask the scientific method guy and he says well i cant really prove it so lets assume otherwise. After that belief is still justified so is doubt in everything else.
Can i use the scientific method for all things or just for stuff you tell me?
(August 4, 2011 at 9:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: That's not the only question CRod, how about mine; Is it true? If not, then I will casually disregard.
What is true but the acceptance until absolutely proven wrong without a doubt nonsense. You know that's what i have been sharing the whole time, something to accept as true. You have shared with me constant skepticism and mockery, nothing is more enthralling than wasting time in this endless circle.
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RE: A question about original sin.
August 4, 2011 at 10:11 pm
(This post was last modified: August 4, 2011 at 10:16 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Is it my fault that your myth cycle rests entirely on circular reasoning? You can share all you like, and I will ask you why I should accept it as true every time. I mock you because you have a tendency to speak in platitudes.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: A question about original sin.
August 4, 2011 at 10:17 pm
(August 4, 2011 at 10:11 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Is it my fault that your myth cycle rests entirely on circular reasoning? You can share all you like, and I will ask you why I should accept it as true every time.
You just like posting, its cool every single post is the same and we just go back and forth. I guess you wouldn't ever want to share your belief with me.
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♪Oh, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get Lost in my mind Lost in my Mind Yes, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get lost I get lost Oh, I get♪ -The Head and the Heart
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RE: A question about original sin.
August 4, 2011 at 10:19 pm
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What belief CRod? Are you operating under the assumption that I'm a muslim, a jew, a pagan, what?
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RE: A question about original sin.
August 4, 2011 at 10:25 pm
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Were you thinking you would find a ready audience of potential converts in this forum, CRod? The problem you are up against was fired back past you pages ago, and your response is not adequate to that volley. Belief is not sufficient in this debate. There is no non-manmade evidence for your deity: The atheist position is based on what is knowable at present and what can be tested and verified, which means that true to you, or believed by you, especially as it pertains to this forum, relegates you to secondhand status. Notions such as original sin and a god dumb enough or malevolent enough to fuck mankind over just to prove his supremacy, and in his quest to do this finding the need to throw either one third of himself or his son to the wolves, are so completely transparent in their confusion that, as with everything fictional, they had to be made up by man.
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RE: A question about original sin.
August 4, 2011 at 10:35 pm
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(August 4, 2011 at 10:25 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Were you thinking you would find a ready audience of potential converts in this forum, CRod? The problem you are up against was fired back past you pages ago, and your response is not adequate to that volley. Belief is not sufficient in this debate. There is no non-manmade evidence for your deity: The atheist position is based on what is knowable at present and what can be tested and verified, which means that true to you, or believed by you, especially as it pertains to this forum, relegates you to secondhand status. Notions such as original sin and a god dumb enough or malevolent enough to fuck mankind over just to prove his supremacy, and in his quest to do this finding the need to throw either one third of himself or his son to the wolves, are so completely transparent in their confusion that, as with everything fictional, they had to be made up by man.
Converts are not of choice. I have a religion with a God and you guys lack belief in a god. I find that any real discussions over philosophy and understanding could be best gathered through the different views. What am i supposed to do go to a Christian forum and say you believe in God, cool man me too! It seems though nothing can be understood but what is already understood from what i see on this forum and the constant ridicule of the faithful.
(August 4, 2011 at 10:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote: What belief CRod? Are you operating under the assumption that I'm a muslim, a jew, a pagan, what?
Im operating under the assumption that you know something to be more true or more important than others things. Do you work under the understanding of some unquestioned truth or do you recognize a belief as true?
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RE: A question about original sin.
August 4, 2011 at 10:45 pm
"Converts are not of choice. I have a religion with a God and you guys lack belief in a god. I find that any real discussions over philosophy and understanding could be best gathered through the different views. What am i supposed to do go to a Christian forum and say you believe in God, cool man me too! It seems though nothing can be understood but what is already understood from what i see on this forum and the constant ridicule of the faithful."
I think you might have more success, and a less bumpy ride, at places like these:
http://www.christiandoctrinediscussion.com/
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/index.php
Atheists are in general so sick of religion-for historically eminent reasons, that they waste little time in excoriating the believers who come in wanting a "philosophical" give and take when in truth, what is desired is a capitulation to a theological nonsequitur.
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