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RE: Atheism is impossible, I don't see how life can be created naturalistically.
September 1, 2011 at 5:25 pm
(September 1, 2011 at 5:09 pm)nicholas5000 Wrote: "Who created God?" The first law of thermodynamics confirms energy is eternal. Before the universe began, logically, there must have existed an original, ultimate, (unimaginably powerful) energy source that has always existed. All subsequent energy sources are ultimately derived from the everlasting first. This original, ultimate, energy source is God. (God is the creator who is uncreated.)
Quite the leap from an "original energy source" to the "energy source is god". How do you connect those dots?
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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RE: Atheism is impossible, I don't see how life can be created naturalistically.
September 1, 2011 at 5:25 pm
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Quote:This original, ultimate, energy source is God. (God is the creator who is uncreated.)
Watch this: This original, ultimate, energy source is Thor/Odin/Easter/bunny/Santa. (Thor/Odin/Easter bunny/Santa is the creator who is uncreated.)
Your argument can be applied to anything.
Quote:We can clearly observe arrangement, complexity, design, and order throughout the universe.
Just because you perceive everything to be designed and ordered doesn't make it so. Ignorance is in all, even I am ignorant of the workings of the cosmos. You on other hand, you like to pretend you have it all figured out. I'm not afraid to admit not knowing something.
Quote: The possibility of a single, all powerful, intelligent, energy source (God) still remains ( This is more logical). I think it is likely that a creator of some kind exists.
In all probability, you're wrong. You are free to assert that it was a god if you want. Changes nothing though.
We don't know how all this came about, and I for one don't pretend otherwise. It would be foolish and arrogant.
We should use the known to help explain the unknown, not the other way round. That is logical. You're trying to use an unknown (god) to explain the known (the cosmos). It's logic in reverse.
You don't believe in god through reason but through desire, you WANT there to be a god.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Atheism is impossible, I don't see how life can be created naturalistically.
September 1, 2011 at 5:39 pm
(September 1, 2011 at 5:25 pm)Thor Wrote: (September 1, 2011 at 5:09 pm)nicholas5000 Wrote: "Who created God?" The first law of thermodynamics confirms energy is eternal. Before the universe began, logically, there must have existed an original, ultimate, (unimaginably powerful) energy source that has always existed. All subsequent energy sources are ultimately derived from the everlasting first. This original, ultimate, energy source is God. (God is the creator who is uncreated.)
Quite the leap from an "original energy source" to the "energy source is god". How do you connect those dots?
No matter how small you slice the physical universe down to, it can't find its explanation for existence in itself, something outside it had to have created it.
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RE: Atheism is impossible, I don't see how life can be created naturalistically.
September 1, 2011 at 5:42 pm
(September 1, 2011 at 5:39 pm)nicholas5000 Wrote: No matter how small you slice the physical universe down to, it can't find its explanation for existence in itself, something outside it had to have created it.
Why? If god doesn't need a creator, why does the universe?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Atheism is impossible, I don't see how life can be created naturalistically.
September 1, 2011 at 5:43 pm
Atheism and Evolution are scientifically impossible.
Atheism, the denial of the necessity for any intelligence in the establishment of the universe and all of the life within it has been proved to be scientifically impossible.
With the arrival of nanotechnology and microbiology, and the ability for scientists to examine DNA at the sub-atomic level, honest scientists all agree that DNA could not possibly have evolved as Darwin suggested. They all now agree that DNA had to have been the product of an incredibly advanced form of intelligence.
The Darwinian Atheist believes that DNA simply arrived on the scene by some form of cosmic chance or luck, not requiring any form of intelligent assistance. Of course, to make themselves sound less ridiculous, Atheists like to use the term Natural Selection to explain such things. Of course, Darwin’s Theory of Natural Selection is just that, a theory, which has now been scientifically proven to be false.
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RE: Atheism is impossible, I don't see how life can be created naturalistically.
September 1, 2011 at 5:43 pm
(September 1, 2011 at 5:39 pm)nicholas5000 Wrote: No matter how small you slice the physical universe down to, it can't find its explanation for existence in itself, something outside it had to have created it.
You don't know enough about the universe to make that kind of assertion. It's arrogance, pure and simple.
You probably haven't noticed but the universe is much bigger that us and we've only seen a very tiny portion of it. We are in no position to make any kind of judgements.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: Atheism is impossible, I don't see how life can be created naturalistically.
September 1, 2011 at 5:45 pm
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(September 1, 2011 at 5:43 pm)nicholas5000 Wrote: Atheism and Evolution are scientifically impossible.
Atheism, the denial of the necessity for any intelligence in the establishment of the universe and all of the life within it has been proved to be scientifically impossible.
With the arrival of nanotechnology and microbiology, and the ability for scientists to examine DNA at the sub-atomic level, honest scientists all agree that DNA could not possibly have evolved as Darwin suggested. They all now agree that DNA had to have been the product of an incredibly advanced form of intelligence.
The Darwinian Atheist believes that DNA simply arrived on the scene by some form of cosmic chance or luck, not requiring any form of intelligent assistance. Of course, to make themselves sound less ridiculous, Atheists like to use the term Natural Selection to explain such things. Of course, Darwin’s Theory of Natural Selection is just that, a theory, which has now been scientifically proven to be false.
Absolutely nothing of what you've said is true.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Atheism is impossible, I don't see how life can be created naturalistically.
September 1, 2011 at 5:48 pm
It doesn't have to be true, he has Faith™
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Atheism is impossible, I don't see how life can be created naturalistically.
September 1, 2011 at 6:02 pm
"I have a fundamental belief in the Bible as the Word of God, written by men who were inspired. I study the Bible daily. Opposition to godliness is atheism in profession and idolatry in practice. Atheism is so senseless and odious to mankind that it never had many professors." - Sir Isaac Newton
"In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views." - Albert Einstein
''A little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion.'' - Sir Francis Bacon
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RE: Atheism is impossible, I don't see how life can be created naturalistically.
September 1, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Quotes? That's the best you got? Damn your arguments are weak.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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