Hello.....I have a little problem

[thesummerqueen]

You know he won't, Shell. Otherwise he'll have have less ammunition to lob at us.

[Statler Waldorf]

Em, who are they to mistreat their children?

Faith schools, for example, are an awful idea that should be stopped.

Ok, you just restated your position. I asked you upon whose authority can you tell other people how they should or can raise their own children.

[The Grand Nudger]

Good for you Statler, argue for the guy who keeps his daughters locked in a fucking basement except for periodic bouts of rape and beating. Who the fuck are we to tell him how to raise his children. I appeal to the great and powerful authority of Stop Being a Douchebag.

[Statler Waldorf]

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Not this old non-sequitur again. Just because people abuse something does not make the thing they abuse evil or that it should be done away with. People use sex in all sorts of wrong ways, they rape women and molest children, is sex something that is evil and should be done away with completely? Get real.

Oh for fuck's sake, Rhythm. Don't start Stat on that Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot shit again. He knows Pol Pot wasn't an atheist, Hitler was a Christian and Stalin was a fucking tyrant using atheism to scare the religious, but he'll never admit it. Will you, Stat?

Don’t get Shell B started on this one again. She knows Pol Pot was an atheist, Hitler was not a Christian and Stalin was an atheistic tyrant who used his atheism to scare the religious and murder millions, but she'll never admit it. Will you, Shell?

Good for you Statler, argue for the guy who keeps his daughters locked in a fucking basement except for periodic bouts of rape and beating. Who the fuck are we to tell him how to raise his children. I appeal to the great and powerful authority of Stop Being a Douchebag.

Red herring, wow we went from faith schools to a guy raping his imprisoned daughters? I can tell him he cannot do that because my God owns Him just as much as me. You do not believe in anything that transcends humanity so you have no authority to tell him what he can and can’t do to his own daughters. Sucks being an atheist don’t it?

[Minimalist]

Actually, both Hitler and Pol Pot were the products of catholic education and Stalin attended a Greek Orthodox seminary.

All three learned the lessons of religion quite well in my opinion.

[The Grand Nudger]

You can't tell anyone shit based on your god. I don't see any mention of Statler Waldorf in

Matthew 7:1-5
Luke 6:37
Romans 14: 1-23
Corinthians 4:1-21
Rev 20:12
John 8:7

Actually, I don't think I've ever seen mention of you anywhere in the Bible. You probably don't exist, and you certainly have no authority whatsoever, nor can you claim god's authority for your own. Heretic.

[Statler Waldorf]

Actually, both Hitler and Pol Pot were the products of catholic education and Stalin attended a Greek Orthodox seminary.

All three learned the lessons of religion quite well in my opinion.

Except when they were murdering millions they didn’t believe in the triune God of scripture and were strict Darwinists. Funny how that works huh? :-P Given your same perverted logic, if someone was an atheist, but then became a Christian and murdered millions we could blame it on the fact that they used to be an atheist.

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You can't tell anyone shit based on your god. I don't see any mention of Statler Waldorf in

Matthew 7:1-5
Luke 6:37
Romans 14: 1-23
Corinthians 4:1-21
Rev 20:12
John 8:7

Actually, I don't think I've ever seen mention of you anywhere in the Bible. You probably don't exist, and you certainly have no authority whatsoever, nor can you claim god's authority for your own. Heretic.

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That’s why I didn’t appeal to my own authority like you seem to keep doing, I appealed to God’s authority revealed to us in scripture which is where you steal your concept of morality from. Heretic? I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

[frankiej]

That’s why I didn’t appeal to my own authority like you seem to keep doing, I appealed to God’s authority revealed to us in scripture which is where you steal your concept of morality from.

We don't steal our morality from scripture. There are people who have never heard of the ten commandments or other bullshit, who seem to do fine.

[Shell B]

These are my favorite kinds of threads. The kind that degenerate into a conversation that will never end.

As for the OP, I wouldn't waste my time, if I were you. I personally don't give a shit what people believe, as long as they are not hurting other people. If you spend your life trying to change their minds, you'll find you have wasted your life. You can't take away people's crutches, easily. Take our dear friend Stat for example.

[Minimalist]

Funny how that works huh?

Tell it to Cardinal Torquemada, Pope Urban II, and John Calvin. Murdering fucks, every last one of them and all claiming that god gave them the right to do it.


I defy you to find evidence of Stalin proclaiming that NOT GOD gave him the right to kill anyone. ( NOT COMMUNISTS yes...but he didn't give a shit about your god)

Neither do I.