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Poll: war
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I support it.
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I oppose it.
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14 35.00%
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War
#11
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It has a large, trained, reserve force and mountainous terrain, good luck.
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#12
RE: War
(October 19, 2011 at 1:09 am)5thHorseman Wrote: Supporter of wars to sort out problems. I supported Iraq war from the start, although I thought oil and regime change was a good enough reason. I'd support a war with Iran when the world gets it's finances together. Whether anyone likes it or not, oil is so important to western lives, that I am of the opinion that you should do anything to get it(almost). Plus the Ayatollah is a bad mutha who needs to get got.

Surprisingly in a lefty.

Quite surprising - and I'm probably not as far left as you.

On oil - I'd like to see a lot of research done into alternative fuels to reduce reliance on foreign oil in unstable and/or unfriendly nations. I realize the importance of petroleum in our lives, and find bumper sticker platitudes like "no blood for oil" a bit over-simplistic. However, I don't support going to war for the purpose of seizing natural resources. I'm not a fan of imperialism.

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#13
RE: War
(October 19, 2011 at 2:23 am)orogenicman Wrote:
(October 18, 2011 at 9:39 pm)IATIA Wrote: War is inevitable whether or not it is supported. Cultures that do not support war will eventually be dissolved.

As bad as things seem to be sometimes, they could be much worse and I will defend my way of life.

Army Airborne 82nd Division. 1971-1974

And yet Switzerland has managed to survive all these years.

Thankyou for pointing that out
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#14
RE: War
(October 19, 2011 at 2:35 am)5thHorseman Wrote: It has a large, trained, reserve force and mountainous terrain, good luck.

My point was that they have remained a neutral state even during both world wars, and are to this day, a neutral country, opting not to go to war.
'The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and seal. It could not be expressed better.'
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens

"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".

- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)

"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "

- Dr. Donald Prothero
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#15
RE: War
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7V6FAoTLc

But I am all for defense. Sometimes it's good for staying alive, but otherwise it's stupid.
42

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#16
RE: War
I know what your point was Smile
(October 19, 2011 at 2:40 am)I_Blaspheme Wrote:
(October 19, 2011 at 1:09 am)5thHorseman Wrote: Supporter of wars to sort out problems. I supported Iraq war from the start, although I thought oil and regime change was a good enough reason. I'd support a war with Iran when the world gets it's finances together. Whether anyone likes it or not, oil is so important to western lives, that I am of the opinion that you should do anything to get it(almost). Plus the Ayatollah is a bad mutha who needs to get got.

Surprisingly in a lefty.

Quite surprising - and I'm probably not as far left as you.

On oil - I'd like to see a lot of research done into alternative fuels to reduce reliance on foreign oil in unstable and/or unfriendly nations. I realize the importance of petroleum in our lives, and find bumper sticker platitudes like "no blood for oil" a bit over-simplistic. However, I don't support going to war for the purpose of seizing natural resources. I'm not a fan of imperialism.

I too would rather see more cash pumped into alteratives and research so the western world doesnt have to be reliant on the middle east.
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#17
RE: War
(October 19, 2011 at 4:25 am)orogenicman Wrote: My point was that they have remained a neutral state even during both world wars, and are to this day, a neutral country, opting not to go to war.

They've never had anything worth taking. No precious natural resources (no more than anywhere else, anyway), no real strategic value in occupying that land, difficult to get in and out of compared to other countries around it because of the mountains. If it had anything worth having, it would have had its shit ruined long ago.

ON TOPIC: I'm not against war.
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#18
RE: War
(October 19, 2011 at 7:11 am)ElDinero Wrote:
(October 19, 2011 at 4:25 am)orogenicman Wrote: My point was that they have remained a neutral state even during both world wars, and are to this day, a neutral country, opting not to go to war.

They've never had anything worth taking. No precious natural resources (no more than anywhere else, anyway), no real strategic value in occupying that land, difficult to get in and out of compared to other countries around it because of the mountains. If it had anything worth having, it would have had its shit ruined long ago.

ON TOPIC: I'm not against war.

It has a lot of money owned/stolen by the ultra rich. Plus it's a very nice vacaton spot. There's two good reasons there to invade. Angel Cloud
'The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and seal. It could not be expressed better.'
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens

"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".

- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)

"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "

- Dr. Donald Prothero
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#19
RE: War
I'm opposed to the idea of war... It is obviously never going to stop as long as we have the separations we do, but if everyone was like me then shit would be great for all.
Cunt
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#20
RE: War
(October 19, 2011 at 7:27 am)orogenicman Wrote: It has a lot of money owned/stolen by the ultra rich. Plus it's a very nice vacaton spot. There's two good reasons there to invade. Angel Cloud

Maybe the first. It'd be a shittier looking place to take your holidays with a bunch of craters blown in it and the cities burnt to the ground...
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