More of my family's repugnant display of faith

[Autumnlicious]

So how come it is that every atheist I've known is a person of integrity and compassion while most Christians I've known are lying scumbags, disloyal unloving people, snotty bigots, narcissistic assholes or any combination thereof? Even prior to my interest in religion, I'd observed that the most staunch Christians were the most miserable excuses for human beings. At the time I'd hypothesized that they give all their love to Jesus and have none leftover for anyone else.

My Christian father would state that "those who hide behind the cloth, often are the most unclean." Quite telling, in that case.

I've known some scumbag atheists. And I know some wonderful liberal Christians. Then again, the Christians I like are educated and often harp on the hypocrisy and anti-community themes espoused by common preachers. My father, in particular, despises organized religion and it's blight on theology, changing an area of interesting philosophy into soapboxes for Uncritical Thinker's Brigade, complete with money changers et al.

What you, DP, have noticed, is that the decent are always in short supply compared to the wicked.

It just happens that most of our country is Christian. And that most of our country has rather egregious scumbags. The two are often paired, with little true dependence on each other, but with a lot of unexpected synergy.

[reverendjeremiah]

Full disclaimer that this is anecdotal experience and not based on statistical study:

So how come it is that every atheist I've known is a person of integrity and compassion while most Christians I've known are lying scumbags, disloyal unloving people, snotty bigots, narcissistic assholes or any combination thereof? Even prior to my interest in religion, I'd observed that the most staunch Christians were the most miserable excuses for human beings. At the time I'd hypothesized that they give all their love to Jesus and have none leftover for anyone else.

I have thought that myself, and I think I have a good answer for it.

belief in Hell.

Believing that people who do not belive the same as you deserve to be tortured in fire for all eternity speaks volumes of the hiden, inner scum surrounding the thoughts of the one holding said beliefs.

did they believe in Hell because their parents told them? then carelessness.

did they not think it through? then again, i say carelessness for others and theirselves.

Did they think it through and decide it was a good idea? then what other horrors are they willing to unleash on their fellow humans in the here and now?

[lucent]

The following is a screenshot of a picture/caption that my cousin posted on facebook. I happen to know for a fact that he isn't joking at all.



Gawk at the idiot.

That is sickening. I am sure people had no idea that 1/4 of their money would be lining someones pocket. If he had advertised that 1/4 of the money would be going to him he probably wouldn't have gotten any donations at all. This is basically a scam, he didn't earn that money. He should give all that money to charity and repent. I am appalled.

[Handprint]

Okay so the guy has done 75% good and 25% evil.

At least he did more good than evil even if his motives were selfish.

I mean, hell, even if he kept 75% and gave 25% to haiti, at least some money would be going there. Any money going to haiti to help them is good, no?

I think people are exaggerating the awfulness of this. Didn't this guy do some work? So, he got paid for the work and the majority of what he "earned" goes to Haiti.

*shrug*

I don't even care if he credits God for this, at the end of the day, this guy has done something to benefit others and that's all that matters to me. Someone is going to get food or medical supplies because of this.

The only thing I would say is that he shouldn't be waving a wad of cash around on Facebook. That's an invitation for someone to break into his house and take his "God-Given" money away from him.

[frankiej]

Jeez, I genuinely feel down after this.

Please give me his address so I can blow him up or something.

[The Grand Nudger]

Just give it a little الله أكبر before you do the deed and everything's kosher.

[Anomalocaris]

Okay so the guy has done 75% good and 25% evil.

At least he did more good than evil even if his motives were selfish.

I mean, hell, even if he kept 75% and gave 25% to haiti, at least some money would be going there. Any money going to haiti to help them is good, no?

I think people are exaggerating the awfulness of this. Didn't this guy do some work? So, he got paid for the work and the majority of what he "earned" goes to Haiti.

*shrug*

I don't even care if he credits God for this, at the end of the day, this guy has done something to benefit others and that's all that matters to me. Someone is going to get food or medical supplies because of this.

The only thing I would say is that he shouldn't be waving a wad of cash around on Facebook. That's an invitation for someone to break into his house and take his "God-Given" money away from him.

I think he should wave wads of cash on face book, and give his address too, so that some one can take it from him, and disabuse him of the notion that anything about his pathetic person has any with god.

I can understand a charitable person covering his own costs incurred in providing the charity. But if a person thinks claiming to act on behalf of charity is a way to give god the opportunity to show him divine favor in the form of wads of cash for his own use, then I hope, in the process of having his cash taken away, the person also gets a savage beating that he will remember everyday all the way to the day he thinks he is going to heaven.

[Handprint]

Jeez, I genuinely feel down after this.

Please give me his address so I can blow him up or something.

Why would you want to blow up someone that gave 75% of the money he earned to people in a earthquake ravaged area of the world?

What have you done for Haiti lately?

Also does anyone find it an invasion of privacy for someone to post a person's full name and photo on a forum without their consent? Couldn't the original poster have described what occurred on Facebook instead of using a screen shot?

[Jackalope]

How much of a cut did the organization he is working for take? In other words, how much money actually went to Haiti to help Haitians? I can give money to the Red Cross (and I do) for a particular disaster and know how much they take for overhead.

Accepting charitable donations for pay is morally repugnant, particularly if you don't voluntarily inform the donors that you're getting a cut.

Okay so the guy has done 75% good and 25% evil.

At least he did more good than evil even if his motives were selfish.

I mean, hell, even if he kept 75% and gave 25% to haiti, at least some money would be going there. Any money going to haiti to help them is good, no?

I think people are exaggerating the awfulness of this. Didn't this guy do some work? So, he got paid for the work and the majority of what he "earned" goes to Haiti.

[Handprint]

How much of a cut did the organization he is working for take? In other words, how much money actually went to Haiti to help Haitians? I can give money to the Red Cross (and I do) for a particular disaster and know how much they take for overhead.

Accepting charitable donations for pay is morally repugnant, particularly if you don't voluntarily inform the donors that you're getting a cut.

Okay so the guy has done 75% good and 25% evil.

At least he did more good than evil even if his motives were selfish.

I mean, hell, even if he kept 75% and gave 25% to haiti, at least some money would be going there. Any money going to haiti to help them is good, no?

I think people are exaggerating the awfulness of this. Didn't this guy do some work? So, he got paid for the work and the majority of what he "earned" goes to Haiti.

he got 25% of what he made

the organization got 75%

I am not sure whether or not he informed the people donating he was going to take a cut, but as i said before, any money going to Haiti is good.