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RE: Christian Looking For Debate
November 1, 2011 at 3:10 pm
(October 28, 2011 at 3:43 am)I_Blaspheme Wrote: (October 28, 2011 at 12:26 am)Minimalist Wrote: He once tried to argue that the fact that there is no evidence for the exodus is proof that it happened.
Ah, the old "you can't prove it's not true, so it must be" gambit.
Fucking brilliant, that. Honestly, I don't know such people can manage to feed themselves without help.
No that wasn't exactly it. It was more along the lines of " they were nothing but slaves so there would not be evidence of them existing therefore the bible stories must be true." I do recall that he sent it to 3 biblical scholars ( one was James Hoffmaier..can't remember the others.) Two ignored him and one tried to sell him a book of shit.
This guy manages to get banned from xtian boards because even they can't stand him.
Sometimes I think I fuck around with him just out of habit.
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RE: Christian Looking For Debate
November 5, 2011 at 3:02 am
(October 26, 2011 at 4:42 pm)SeekerOfTruth Wrote: Hello, I'm new here and I'm looking for someone who can debate with me. I am a Christian in College and I'm actively searching for truth. First, I will point out that I believe that there is no way you can 100% know that a God exists or doesn't exist and I believe that Christianity revolves on not knowing God exists. For instance I am a Christian who believes in God, but do I think God exists? Maybe, however Christianity revolves around faith in God and you receive "salvation" based on that faith. If I knew God exists then there's no faith involved therefor I am neither Christian nor do I receive "salvation." I'm not looking to convert anyone I'm simply looking for what others believe. I'm not looking to attack anyone's beliefs only to defend mine. I am open to any questions that you have for me. Finally, I will also point out that I hate ignorant Christians, and Christians who don't intelligently defend their faith with respect.
Even the bible says to "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind" (Luke 10:27)
and "Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect" (1 Peter 3:15)
In my opinion these are two of the most ignored verses int he bible
When a person closes his or her mind to the truth, real knowledge stops right there. With out a Creator there is no way I could exist. Nice to see another believer here my friend. O K non believers run with that.
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RE: Christian Looking For Debate
November 5, 2011 at 3:16 am
I'm an ape, primate, animal and damn proud of it. You are too! If your god is my creator, then why'd he do such a better job making my brain than yours?
Why am I being arrogant? I don't believe that I was created by a creator with some special purpose in mind just for me. That would be fucking arrogant. What is the special purpose baby jesus has for children who are dying of starvation/various horrendous diseases/parasites? Parasites that he fucking created! Nice job, jebus, but thanks for having a special plan for the retarded drone follower, justthedumbscumbagbullshit.
What a load of piss drivel. I'm a non believer, and proud owner of a functioning brain- damn proud of it.
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RE: Christian Looking For Debate
November 5, 2011 at 3:22 am
(October 26, 2011 at 6:39 pm)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote: (October 26, 2011 at 4:42 pm)SeekerOfTruth Wrote: Hello, I'm new here and I'm looking for someone who can debate with me. I am a Christian in College and I'm actively searching for truth. First, I will point out that I believe that there is no way you can 100% know that a God exists or doesn't exist and I believe that Christianity revolves on not knowing God exists. So then why do you choose to believe he exists? Why do you choose to believe something that cannot be substantiated and may very likely not be true at all?
Even if you don't take the position of even "I believe god/jesus does exist" then why do you honestly bother?
If you're in search of the truth, then why not go down the path of things that can be proven as true?
Things like evolution, gravity, and the speed of light are all things that have been studied, measured, and proven to work consistently often despite interests against those things (like christian creationism against all of those things or conservatism vs. climate change.)
More to the point, there is no evidence anywhere that anything in the bible is true and in fact scientific inquiery over the past several centuries has basically been systematically proving that the bible is anything but true - even the study of human history essentially discounts much of the events of the bible are true, even in certain people and places did, in fact, exist (like how spider man is fictional but New York is not.)
(October 26, 2011 at 4:42 pm)SeekerOfTruth Wrote: For instance I am a Christian who believes in God, but do I think God exists? Maybe, however Christianity revolves around faith in God and you receive "salvation" based on that faith. If I knew God exists then there's no faith involved therefor I am neither Christian nor do I receive "salvation." I'm not looking to convert anyone I'm simply looking for what others believe. I'm not looking to attack anyone's beliefs only to defend mine. I am open to any questions that you have for me. Finally, I will also point out that I hate ignorant Christians, and Christians who don't intelligently defend their faith with respect.
Even the bible says to "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind" (Luke 10:27)
and "Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect" (1 Peter 3:15)
In my opinion these are two of the most ignored verses int he bible
To be fair, most christians don't follow any of Jesus' teachings. I can only hope it's the reason why people still vote republican and scoff at universal healthcare because then there'd bea reason beyond mere apathy and hate. That's another topic for another day, however.
Yes, if you knew god exists, then that makes the concept of "Faith in God" pointless.
However, I have a hard time believing that if someone asked you to give them 10% of your income in tithes to someone who has saved your life (he says his name is bob) and constantly protects you from unicorn rape but you cannot meet bob, see bob, then I have a hard time believing that you'd take it seriously.
Think about this the next time you get an email from a Nigerian Prince who wants to give you millions of dollars if you'd just front him a few thousand.
Given that even you admit that you cannot discern god in the sense of fact vs. fiction, then why are you involved at all? Thinkn about this the next time you hear about the nigerian email scam or any other con game because you've chosen to believe in one over the other and you've told me that you recognize this but you have given me no other reason to stay in it other than the possibility of 'maybe.'
It's very poor reasoning.
Evolution? Prove evolution happened. Science says that we evolved from apes and monkeys. We still have apes and monkeys in the world today. I guess some of them did not get the evolution memo. Besides they have never told us what those apes and monkeys evolved from. When you refuse to accept the truth for what ever reason you start making stuff up. Amazing how willing some people are to accept evolving from a dumb monkey as opposed to being Created by an Almighty God. Sorry no monkeys in my family. I guess the monkey people will respond with their usual fowl mouth responses. Come on missing links have at me.
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RE: Christian Looking For Debate
November 5, 2011 at 3:32 am
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(November 5, 2011 at 3:22 am)justthetruth Wrote: Evolution? Prove evolution happened. Science says that we evolved from apes and monkeys. We still have apes and monkeys in the world today. I guess some of them did not get the evolution memo. Besides they have never told us what those apes and monkeys evolved from. When you refuse to accept the truth for what ever reason you start making stuff up. Amazing how willing some people are to accept evolving from a dumb monkey as opposed to being Created by an Almighty God. Sorry no monkeys in my family. I guess the monkey people will respond with their usual fowl mouth responses. Come on missing links have at me.
Kingdom: Animalia
Phyla: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primmates
Family: Homindae
Genus: Homo
Species: Sapien
That's what you are. It's not our fault that you can't process complex ideas. We evolved from ape like species, and we are related to apes, but we did not evolve from apes. Chimps are chimps. We are not chimps. Just cousins.
I get really sick of this question. You obviously know how to google. You don't really want evidence. You want jesus. So you keep him, and love him, and masturbate over a shotgun or something.
In the meantime, enjoy this awesome song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0vlrTVC2...re=related
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RE: Christian Looking For Debate
November 5, 2011 at 12:29 pm
(November 5, 2011 at 3:22 am)justthetruth Wrote: Evolution? Prove evolution happened. Science says that we evolved from apes and monkeys. We still have apes and monkeys in the world today. I guess some of them did not get the evolution memo. Besides they have never told us what those apes and monkeys evolved from. When you refuse to accept the truth for what ever reason you start making stuff up. Amazing how willing some people are to accept evolving from a dumb monkey as opposed to being Created by an Almighty God. Sorry no monkeys in my family. I guess the monkey people will respond with their usual fowl mouth responses. Come on missing links have at me.
Yeah, see, the problem with making the above statement is, we already know you haven't done the first bit of research or made any sort of attempt to see if there is an answer to your questions. I know that, because your comments betray how ignorant you are on the subject of how evolution works. You've heard those arguments trotted out somewhere, and are just repeating them. Who's making stuff up, again?
So I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm not going to explain it to you. YOU can go to Google, punch in 'did humans evolve from monkeys' and have a little read. Yahoo Answers pages will be fine, I'm sure. Then you report back and tell me if you understand what a giant load of crap the above post is. There's a good boy.
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RE: Christian Looking For Debate
November 5, 2011 at 12:33 pm
(November 5, 2011 at 3:22 am)justthetruth Wrote: Evolution? Prove evolution happened. Science says that we evolved from apes and monkeys. We still have apes and monkeys in the world today. I guess some of them did not get the evolution memo. Besides they have never told us what those apes and monkeys evolved from. When you refuse to accept the truth for what ever reason you start making stuff up. Amazing how willing some people are to accept evolving from a dumb monkey as opposed to being Created by an Almighty God. Sorry no monkeys in my family. I guess the monkey people will respond with their usual fowl mouth responses. Come on missing links have at me.
Just because you have absolutely no clue about how evolution works and how we evolved does not mean you should be so condescending.
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RE: Christian Looking For Debate
November 5, 2011 at 1:23 pm
(November 5, 2011 at 3:22 am)justthetruth Wrote: Evolution? Prove evolution happened. Science says that we evolved from apes and monkeys. We still have apes and monkeys in the world today. I guess some of them did not get the evolution memo. Besides they have never told us what those apes and monkeys evolved from. When you refuse to accept the truth for what ever reason you start making stuff up. Amazing how willing some people are to accept evolving from a dumb monkey as opposed to being Created by an Almighty God. Sorry no monkeys in my family. I guess the monkey people will respond with their usual fowl mouth responses. Come on missing links have at me.
What we have here is a combination of ignorance and arrogance.
Ignorance in the way that evolution actually works and arrogance in the assumption that because you personally don't understand it (and clearly you don't have a single clue) that it must therefore be wrong and you must be right!
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RE: Christian Looking For Debate
November 5, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Curious. We now have a Seeker - of Truth and a Just - theTruth.
the former is better than the latter, but I find it ironic that both make reference to the truth and yet subscribe to a fraudulent religion built on outrageous lies.
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RE: Christian Looking For Debate
November 5, 2011 at 1:45 pm
Quote:When a person closes his or her mind to the truth, real knowledge stops right there.
I have to admit that you understand the problem JTT. Now, if you could get your head out of that stupid old book of horseshit and start trying to find out what the world is really about you might get somewhere.
But somehow, you strike me as the kind who prefers fantasy to reality.
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