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Why Atheism/Secular Humanism... Part II
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LastPoet
 Leader of the gang of jerkoffs(tm)  Religious Views: L'Uomo verrà portato dalla sua creazione
Hell, I'll kudos you for quote-by-quote that idiot. Not that will matter much...
Thanks. If it gave anyone food for thought, I'm quite satisfied.
 RE: Why Atheism/Secular Humanism... Part II
November 30, 2011 at 3:17 pm
(This post was last modified: November 30, 2011 at 3:26 pm by Mystic.)
*Re-thinking*
I think those verses simply mean that atheists are deaf, dumb, and blind to the truth. Likewise, their hearts and minds have also been "sealed" from the truth. 
RE: Why Atheism/Secular Humanism... Part II
November 30, 2011 at 3:49 pm
(This post was last modified: November 30, 2011 at 3:50 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
So "vilest of animals" and "knowing no good in them" is falling on deaf ears now eh? Since when, by the way, is the Quran open to your interpretation Rayaan? Does it not say what it means and mean what it says?
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RE: Why Atheism/Secular Humanism... Part II
November 30, 2011 at 3:56 pm
(This post was last modified: November 30, 2011 at 4:00 pm by Mystic.)
(November 30, 2011 at 3:46 pm)Rayaan Wrote: *Re-thinking* It's more then that. If you go to the parable of light in Suratal Noor, the heart of the believer is deemed to have the light of God/light of Islam. It sees the light, it understand the wisdom, it hears the voice of God and call of God. On the other hand, disbelievers hearts are hardened by their actions, there is darkness in their hearts, and as Quran says, whom God gives no light, has no light. It's not only Atheists, but all disbelievers. The point Quran paints an image, is that if you have good in your heart, you should see the light of Islam and Quran easily. You should perceive that it's from God, believers can hear, see, and understand what disbelievers are blind, deaf, and dumb to. The reason they are blind, deaf, and dumb to it, is their own darkness. The darkness is a like a disease that God adds too, but is at fault of the person. This is what I understand of the Quran. So from this perspective, you can't say disbelievers can be good people or good at heart. 
What does it matter if it's all atheists or a 'specific group' of them? You're performing acrobatics because you don't want to say you agree with what it says, but you can't say you disagree. That much is clear.
There's a difference between the two as I mentioned above.
I agree with the statements in the Quran, yes, but not with the opinions of the posters whom I was addressing to. Also, my "acrobatics" are just interpretations of what I already agree with. 
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