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Who you voting for?
December 15, 2011 at 4:28 pm
This isn't a thread where you gimi that bullshit, I don't have to tell you. I would like everyone to tell me who your voting for and why. I'd say Ron Paul myself, but I'm too young to vote. This guy has his shit straight. Thinking smaller government, but he seems like the right type of guy who could have more power without going all... Nixon on our asses. Am I right? Why? Why not? Please tell me.
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RE: Who you voting for?
December 15, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Right now I am not voting for anyone. It will be the first time in a decade when I havent voted.
Im looking into third parties...heh...as if that will make a fucking difference.
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RE: Who you voting for?
December 15, 2011 at 4:54 pm
I'm in one of the reddest states in the union. Obama has no chance to take my state's electoral votes anyway. The Republicans could run the Hitler/Stalin ticket, the Dems could run the Washington/Lincoln ticket and Kentucky would still be colored red on the post election maps.
Consequently, I'm looking for a good third party candidate.
Those who live in solid red states should do the same.
Those who live in swing states or blue states, if they're open to suggestions, I'd advise them to hold their nose and vote for Obama.
If progressives everywhere could agree to this strategy, we could have it both ways. We'll be sending a message to the Democrats ("stop throwing us under the bus!" ) while not toying with the possibility of "president Gingrich".
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RE: Who you voting for?
December 15, 2011 at 5:27 pm
(December 15, 2011 at 4:58 pm)5thHorseman Wrote: Yes that's aimed at people who say they won't vote Obama, but hate Republicans more. Suck up your pride and keep the Right wing Christards out. Just imagine what they'd do if one of their crackpots got back in.
I should probably explain to those who don't live in America that we have a needlessly complex, almost Byzantiine system of electing our presidents. We have this antiquated institution called "The Electoral College".
The way it works is that each state has a set number of "Electoral College Votes" equal to the number of congressional representatives that it has (2 + number determine proportionate to population). Every state has its own election and nearly every state is "winner take all".
Consequently, it doesn't matter if you lost 49/51 to your opponent or you lost every single vote that was cast in the entire state. Either way, you get 0 Electoral Votes from that state.
It's for this reason that we've twice had presidents elected by the Electoral College who actually lost the popular vote. One of these was W. Bush (putting aside whether or not he actually won in Florida, and I'm sorry but no, I won't "get over it" until the day I die).
So if you live in a solid "red state" (meaning Republican or conservative territory), screw Obama. He's going to lose in your state anyway. Vote 3rd party. If you live in a blue or close-call state, hold your nose and vote Obama.
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RE: Who you voting for?
December 15, 2011 at 5:30 pm
If I were American, I'd vote for Ron Paul. If he weren't on the ticket, I'd write him in.
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RE: Who you voting for?
December 15, 2011 at 5:31 pm
In Scotland, we have a proportional representational system... It isn't exactly perfect, but it makes your system look like the best thing since sliced bread.
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RE: Who you voting for?
December 15, 2011 at 5:47 pm
Obama.
There is no other choice.
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RE: Who you voting for?
December 15, 2011 at 5:48 pm
I've started a thread on the Electoral College. Non-Americans are welcome to offer their opinions as well.
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RE: Who you voting for?
December 15, 2011 at 5:55 pm
I can't stand Ron Paul. I think he's totally unrealistic, and I've not been impressed with him for one tiny fraction of a millisecond.
I'm voting for Obama. I happen to like black jesus.. and the fact that the conservative shit lickers in this country can't stand him, just makes me like him even more.