Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.

[Joods]

Maybe the thread should be split if it's going to involve Huggy trying to prove a point.

[Shell B]

I'll never split this thread, ever. No one ever will. It's too long, and it's fucking all off-topic.

[Joods]

I'll never split this thread, ever. No one ever will. It's too long, and it's fucking all off-topic.

LOL it's already been split once or twice already.

[brewer]

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I just stated I'll accept any label you want to put on me.

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[Huggy Bear]

You sure that's what you want?

Sure.  I'll start you off.  Counting the two you've already claimed, you have to show indisputable evidence that you won at least two of the following debates, or produce additional debates that I've missed.

https://atheistforums.org/thread-53040-page-13.html

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You know...I sometimes wonder what some random w. african circa 1400 would think if I handed them a time machine, and they could watch their descendants become shoddy apologists for the religion of those who would enslave and oppress their own children for the next few subsequent centuries.  Sad fucking state of affairs, if you ask me.

What are you talking about? The original Hebrews WERE black.

hahahahahahahahahahah,

I;m sorry, I'm sorry.  Excuse me.   Ahem.  So, who told you that?  Not one of those weird ass Black Hebrew Isrealite cultists, are you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of..._in_Africa

The most ancient communities of African Jews are the Ethiopian, Sephardi, and Mizrahi Jews of North Africa and the Horn of Africa.

Acts 8:27-28

And behold, a man of Ethiopia, a eunuch of great authority under Candace, queen of the Ethiopians, who had charge of all her treasure and had come to Jerusalem to worship,

28 was returning; and sitting in his chariot, he was reading Isaiah the prophet.

Please explain why an Ethiopian (which referred to a much larger portion of Africa than it currently does) is reading Jewish literature and traveling to worship at Jerusalem?

This same Ethiopian was converted to Christianity by Philip which shows that there were Christian Africans long before the Atlantic slave trade...

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Indisputable fact...

https://atheistforums.org/thread-45331-page-11.html

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We're the single-most important organism in the dominant ecosystem on earth, the human one.

Cats, dogs, roaches, mice...we're a dependency.  If it weren't for us our livestock would die, our agricultural environments would disappear.  I'm not sure why anyone would think that human beings are somehow -outside- of nature or ecosystems.  Primitively we fill the same niche (and provide the same dependencies) that any other primate does...we're just better at it than any of them. So we build skyscrapers and cities..which are, themselves, an ecosystem all their own. Taken from the other end...we're omnivores - garbage collectors.  We're also habitat modifiers.  That's the vital role we play.

Uh wrong, I'd say bees (ironicaly) are the single most important organism. Without them we pretty much die.

Nah, you hear that alot, they're important..but mostly for fruiting crops.  Corn, wheat, rice (your staple wind blown cereals)...a world without bees wouldn't affect them.  

We're the -reason- that european honeybees are everywhere (native bees and bumble/carpener bees pollinate athe same crops and about as effectively as flies do).  They didn't fly across those oceans themselves.  Yet another way we're instrumental to the ecosystem.

I;m having trouble seeing what sense, if any, we can be seperated or said to not have a role or place in the ecosystem.  As another poster already mentioned, it's pretty much impossible by definition for that to be true.  I'm guessing that you mean something specific, by "ecosystem"..such that all of the things that we do are decided to be "not the ecosystem"?

Humans are not more important to an ecosystem than bees.
https://earthjustice.org/blog/2013-augus...-honeybees

TIME Magazine's cover this week depicts a single bee, its wings flapping in frenzied motion on a stark black background. It forebodingly reads, "A WORLD WITHOUT BEES: THE PRICE WE'LL PAY IF WE DON'T FIGURE OUT WHAT'S KILLING THE HONEYBEE".

The article illustrates the stakes—what can happen if we lose even more honeybees: The example Walsh singles out is California's $4 billion almond crop, which could fail, and he calls up a powerful demonstration in which a Whole Foods in Rhode Island removed from its produce section all of the foods that exist because of honeybees: 237 out of 453 food items vanished, reports Walsh.

Humans depend on bees, not the other way around.

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https://atheistforums.org/post-1354255.html

This ones so long that it's hard to provide the full context, however this is the conclusion.

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So...can Huggy justify his statements or not.

Obviously you haven't been reading, If you go back far enough, the dummy was asking me to provide dna samples from the serpent.

Strange that you remember that, since that never actually happened.  I asked you to provide references to -our- dna.  OTOH, since we're all serpent hybrids..it shouldn;t be too difficult to give me an example of serpent dna...what with it being -in- all of us.  

Right?

obviously you don't realize you would need a sample of serpent dna to make that determination.....

What makes you think that?

Because you need a sample to compare our dna with, or else how would you determine what dna came from the serpent?

To determine paternity, you need a sample from the child AND the father.

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There that's three for you.

[Fireball]

Several weeks ago, I witnessed an epic reading fail on the hugster's part. I busted his chops, and in the inevitable ensuing back and forth, I was asked "What do YOU think it means!?" From that point on, I've really resisted interfacing with the hugster. Everyone else can imagine why. It is really sad.

[Huggy Bear]

Several weeks ago, I witnessed an epic reading fail on the hugster's part. I busted his chops, and in the inevitable ensuing back and forth, I was asked "What do YOU think it means!?" From that point on, I've really resisted interfacing with the hugster. Everyone else can imagine why. It is really sad.

Several weeks ago? you mean this post from 6 months ago?

I don't think that Khem posted what Huggy thinks he posted. That's a pretty big Reading Comprehension Failure, right there.

Well since your head is apparently so far up Khems backside you can see what he's thinking, how about YOU explaining what he meant.

regarding this post?

The following exchange show that some atheists are fine with genocide under certain circumstances.

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OFC it is, lol?  In what universe do you expect a loving parent to entertain the idea of killing their kids?

When your kid becomes a threat to the rest of humanity... Apparently your love only extends to your kid, and not your fellow human beings.

-but not the blood of my kids.  This is where the other foot falls.  You never believed your own bullshit..but you're content to imply that I'm a monster for not killing my kid. So what, I'm a parent...that's how we roll.

What makes you a monster is your disregard for 68 million lives...

screw them as long as YOUR kid who will be responsible for their demise is ok.

So god isn't at all like a parent, and I wasn't "made in his image", and his reasons are noticeably different from my reasons.

Yay, I win another thing.  Christ..you're a moron.

No, Gods love extends to everyone, NOT just his kid. So if the sacrifice of his only son would save humanity, he'd do it. You on the other hand would sacrifice humanity to save your kid... nope, nothing monsterish about that at...all...

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[Angrboda]

Sure.  I'll start you off.  Counting the two you've already claimed, you have to show indisputable evidence that you won at least two of the following debates, or produce additional debates that I've missed.

https://atheistforums.org/thread-53040-page-13.html

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You know...I sometimes wonder what some random w. african circa 1400 would think if I handed them a time machine, and they could watch their descendants become shoddy apologists for the religion of those who would enslave and oppress their own children for the next few subsequent centuries.  Sad fucking state of affairs, if you ask me.

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Indisputable fact...

No, it simply shows that you're capable of the fallacy of ignoratio elenchi. You were claiming that the original Hebrews were black. For evidence you brought out that some of the oldest Jewish communities in Africa were black, and that an Ethiopian came to Jerusalem and read Jewish literature. Neither of those show that the original Hebrews were black, much less indisputably so. You also claimed that "Jews" refers to the sons of Judah. First, the question wasn't whether or not the sons of Judah were mostly blacks, but whether the original Hebrews were black. Even if you had good evidence that the original sons of Judah were black, which you don't, it wouldn't be indisputable evidence that the original Hebrews were black. So that point fails as well.

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Humans are not more important to an ecosystem than bees.
https://earthjustice.org/blog/2013-augus...-honeybees

Humans depend on bees, not the other way around.

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First off, there were apparently two debates in that thread. One, whether you were right that bees are the single most important organism (in the ecosystem), and whether humans would die without the bee. You claim that bees are the most important because we depend upon them and not the reverse. You've got a good point. It's not indisputable, but I'll give you that one. Did you demonstrate that we would die without the bee? No, you mentioned scurvy, but we both could synthesize vitamin C, and since we all die, the apparent meaning of your phrase "we pretty much die" is that the human species would cease to exist, which you didn't in any sense demonstrate. So that adds an additional debate to the eight we already had, and provides you with a win. Unfortunately, because it adds an additional debate to the list, you gain no ground by winning that one debate. You still need to provide indisputable evidence that you won two additional debates out of those remaining.

[LadyForCamus]

Maybe the thread should be split if it's going to involve Huggy trying to prove a point.

LOL.  Fact.

[brewer]

Jesus H Christ. Here we Huggy go.