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Evidence against creation
#31
RE: Evidence against creation
(March 19, 2015 at 12:48 am)snowtracks Wrote:
(March 14, 2015 at 8:03 am)Gawdzilla Wrote: Science doesn't disprove "creation", it disregards it, and rightly so.

science is a study of how God it. in that sense, not a ally to the atheist.

Which god?

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#32
RE: Evidence against creation
(March 13, 2015 at 7:06 pm)whateverist Wrote:
(March 5, 2015 at 11:12 pm)Neber Wrote: Hi all to be honest i'm here to collect some evidence surrounding evidence against creation from the Atheist and scientific point of view.




Creation isn't a serious theory because it begs the question, "and who or what created the creator".  You can't define your way out of that one.  So if anyone is seriously interested in origins, they just follow the evidence as far back as it leads.  Beyond that, no one yet knows nor has any defensible theory.  You're free to speculate all you want.  But I don't feel any need to argue against your indefensible opinions.
Beginnings only make sense where time is linear in some way such as the cosmic timeline which began 13 billion years ago. If time were two-dimensional, it would be described as a plane which wouldn’t require a beginning or cessation; this is the situation with the Creator. One dimensional time has beginnings and endings; not necessarily so with two-dimensional time.
Atheist Credo: An universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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#33
RE: Evidence against creation
Alexander the Great saw a dinosaur...

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

And Marco Polo saw unicorns. And Odysseus was taken captive by a Cyclops. And Herodotus reports that Poseidon sent a tsunami to wipe out the Persians and save the town of Nea Potidea.

Is this really the shit that Christians teach their young?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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#34
RE: Evidence against creation
My grand daddy isn't no monkey! I don't want to fuck monkeys! Who would want that?!
It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley, but to believe or not believe in God is not important at all. - Denis Diderot

We are the United States of Amnesia, we learn nothing because we remember nothing. - Gore Vidal
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#35
RE: Evidence against creation
As to the original post, I'd love to get Mr. Shit&Run some evidence against creation.  I really would.  But I'm having a devil of a time showing that unicorns did not disturb my garden once more last night.  I'm pretty certain that unicorns don't even exist, but we all know how hard it is rule out figments of other people's imagination.
As to snowy's comments on the dimensionality of time I can only add .. derp.  
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#36
RE: Evidence against creation
(April 18, 2015 at 2:42 am)snowtracks Wrote: If time were two-dimensional, it would be described as a plane which wouldn’t require a beginning or cessation; this is the situation with the Creator. One dimensional time has beginnings and endings; not necessarily so with two-dimensional time.

Cool. I eagerly await your demonstration of this claim, which at a minimum will require evidence of God and nonlinear time. There's also the better than average chance that I'll be sorely disappointed given your propensity for making shit up and passing it off as certain knowledge.
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#37
RE: Evidence against creation
Well my God has like fifty dimensions.
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#38
RE: Evidence against creation
Exactly. Finally, someone said it. Creationists never follow through on their assertions, even notwithstanding the beautifully apt lavatorial implications of that phrase.

The scientific method:

Step 1 - Observe some aspect of reality

Step 2 - Devise tentative hypothesis to account for it

Step 3 - Devise experiments to test hypothesis against observation as unambiguously as possible and in as varied situations as possible

Step 4 - Use experimental data to revise hypothesis

Step 5 - Repeat steps 3 and 4 until hypothesis accounts for and makes predictions about the observation

Step 6 - Publish paper and submit it for peer review

Step 7 - If you are lucky, whatever survives to this point gets to be called a theory

The creationist scientific method:

Step 1 - Observe some aspect of existing scientific theory and/or debate that looks ripe for rebranding under the Jesus banner

Step 2 - Devise scenario, however implausible, to account for it. Don't forget to include as many carefully mined quotes and bible/kerrang verses as you can. Remember you're doing this for Jesus.

Step 3 - Er...

Step 4 - That's about it

Step 5 - Declare victory
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#39
RE: Evidence against creation
(April 18, 2015 at 4:54 am)Pizza Wrote: My grand daddy isn't no monkey! I don't want to fuck monkeys! Who would want that?!


But what if it's like, a really slammin' HOT monkey?

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#40
RE: Evidence against creation
(April 18, 2015 at 6:51 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(April 18, 2015 at 4:54 am)Pizza Wrote: My grand daddy isn't no monkey! I don't want to fuck monkeys! Who would want that?!


But what if it's like, a really slammin' HOT monkey?

Boru

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It is very important not to mistake hemlock for parsley, but to believe or not believe in God is not important at all. - Denis Diderot

We are the United States of Amnesia, we learn nothing because we remember nothing. - Gore Vidal
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