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RE: A question about the flood myth, baraminology, and Pangaea
February 23, 2016 at 6:26 pm
(February 23, 2016 at 4:06 pm)Drich Wrote: (February 22, 2016 at 6:58 pm)Old Baby Wrote: Drich could prove the Noah's Ark story to me and I still wouldn't believe in his "bible based Christianity", simply because he's a pompous asshole - exactly the type of Christian I found abrasive and counter-effective when I was still a believer.
That's good.. You determine truth by how you personally judge the person providing the narrative.
Let me ask, are you allowed to vote?
Nice try, but no, that's not how I determine truth. Read it again.
My objection was to your bible-based Christianity, because you are an asshole.
Even if I believed in bible-based Christianity, I wouldn't believe in yours, because you're an asshole.
Now go on arguing the factuality of your bible stories.
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RE: A question about the flood myth, baraminology, and Pangaea
February 23, 2016 at 7:41 pm
Yeah, you're banned for life from my lunch table, Drichy. And don't take that as some kind of victory. You're just a twat.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: A question about the flood myth, baraminology, and Pangaea
February 23, 2016 at 8:45 pm
Another problem with the flood that I don't see brought up much-- why did all the animals need to die? I've heard someone say that the animals were being bad too. But if that's the case, then why did Noah save two of each? Were there still two good animals of every surviving species after the Ark story? JUST two? and there happened to be seven of every clean animal that were also 'good'. No more, no less. Two of each kind. Exactly two.
Yahweh chose to save Noah and his family because Noah was a good person. Were all the animals being bad too? With God being all powerful, surely there were less messy ways of wiping out all of humanity.
Were there no good children? No good babies? How about unborn children? Surely at least a few people who died during the flood would have been pregnant.
It stretches the imagination to believe the story to be anything more than myth.
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RE: A question about the flood myth, baraminology, and Pangaea
February 23, 2016 at 8:52 pm
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Ever had a garden infested with Japanese knotweed, or something similar, which you want to eradicate? Would it make sense to collect samples of every plant and organism in the garden, then sterilise the whole ground before replanting everything - including the knotweed? That's how much sense the flood story makes.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: A question about the flood myth, baraminology, and Pangaea
February 23, 2016 at 9:40 pm
Quote: why did all the animals need to die?
Cuz god's a dick.
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RE: A question about the flood myth, baraminology, and Pangaea
February 23, 2016 at 9:49 pm
And my dick's a god.
Ie, it may as well be nonexistent.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: A question about the flood myth, baraminology, and Pangaea
February 23, 2016 at 9:59 pm
You know...
Every once in a while, it actually hits me that there are people that really believe the literal truth of the mythological stories from the Bible (and other "holy" texts).
The fact that there are reasonably intelligent people on here going through Olympian levels of mental gymnastics, in order to continue to believe what obviously never happened, has me gobsmacked.
Seriously people, there was never a global flood. Time to grow up and enter the 21st century.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: A question about the flood myth, baraminology, and Pangaea
February 23, 2016 at 10:03 pm
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(February 23, 2016 at 8:45 pm)Cecelia Wrote: Another problem with the flood that I don't see brought up much-- why did all the animals need to die? I've heard someone say that the animals were being bad too. But if that's the case, then why did Noah save two of each? Were there still two good animals of every surviving species after the Ark story? JUST two? and there happened to be seven of every clean animal that were also 'good'. No more, no less. Two of each kind. Exactly two.
Yahweh chose to save Noah and his family because Noah was a good person. Were all the animals being bad too? With God being all powerful, surely there were less messy ways of wiping out all of humanity.
Were there no good children? No good babies? How about unborn children? Surely at least a few people who died during the flood would have been pregnant.
It stretches the imagination to believe the story to be anything more than myth.
Genesis 6 King James Version
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
Genesis 6 Old Baby Version
5. And God realized how royally he screwed up by allowing Satan, who he already kicked out of heaven for being evil, to live on his created paradise planet without ever suspecting that the old devil would continue being evil and end up corrupting the naive children he created who didn't know the difference in good and evil.
6. And it pissed God off that his plans were so easily thwarted, and his incompetence grieved his heart.
7. And the Lord said, Rather than accepting responsibility for this clusterfuck, I'll destroy man from the face of the earth; both man and beast and creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; because I'm really pissed off at this game; and the Lord God spiked the controller against the floor.
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RE: A question about the flood myth, baraminology, and Pangaea
February 23, 2016 at 11:31 pm
(February 23, 2016 at 9:59 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: You know...
Every once in a while, it actually hits me that there are people that really believe the literal truth of the mythological stories from the Bible (and other "holy" texts).
The fact that there are reasonably intelligent people on here going through Olympian levels of mental gymnastics, in order to continue to believe what obviously never happened, has me gobsmacked.
Seriously people, there was never a global flood. Time to grow up and enter the 21st century. But what about that million man army from Sudan that invaded Israel? Surely that's true? Is it all lies??
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RE: A question about the flood myth, baraminology, and Pangaea
February 23, 2016 at 11:56 pm
(February 23, 2016 at 9:49 pm)Stimbo Wrote: And my dick's a god.
Ie, it may as well be nonexistent.
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