(July 31, 2015 at 9:42 am)ChadWooters Wrote: The arguments support Christianity because Christianity is true. But they do not support the other religions because those religions are false.

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Back to Christian class clown for Chad I guess.

I swears there are multiple users on Chad's account. The class clown version must have more time on his hands lately as he is getting most of the air time.

(July 31, 2015 at 11:13 am)Godschild Wrote:  None of the other gods have called me, the God of creation did, I answered and found Him to be real and true to what He has said. It's amazing how quite the other gods are, you would believe they would want to steal followers if they were real, you know offering more than the others.

GC

But I guess if you had been brought up in Jerusalem or Bagdad or Mumbai, you would have been provided with a different phone number. And you would have probably felt the same.

You atheists reject all religions because you don't believe there is a God.  I believe Jesus is who he said he is.  If this is  true then all other religions are incorrect.

(July 31, 2015 at 12:14 pm)Lek Wrote: You atheists reject all religions because you don't believe there is a God.  I believe Jesus is who he said he is.  If this is  true then all other religions are incorrect.

Because it's the standard for religious persons in your corner of the world. Yes, you believe, since you've been brought up and socialised that way.

(July 31, 2015 at 12:14 pm)Lek Wrote: You atheists reject all religions because you don't believe there is a God.  I believe Jesus is who he said he is.  If this is  true then all other religions are incorrect.

Here's a tip: any defense of your position that runs "if I'm right, then you're all wrong," is not a defense of your position.

(July 31, 2015 at 12:14 pm)Lek Wrote: You atheists reject all religions because you don't believe there is a God.  I believe Jesus is who he said he is.  If this is  true then all other religions are incorrect.

Lek, we get it.  You're a moron.  You don't have to keep proving it.

(July 31, 2015 at 12:14 pm)Lek Wrote: You atheists reject all religions because you don't believe there is a God.  I believe Jesus is who he said he is.  If this is  true then all other religions are incorrect.

Why is it so hard to understand that anonymous third party allegations based on hearsay upon hearsay with a liberal dose of legend and mythologizing are not the same thing as "Jesus said"?  This is basic stuff.

(July 31, 2015 at 12:14 pm)Lek Wrote: You atheists reject all religions because you don't believe there is a God.  I believe Jesus is who he said he is.  If this is  true then all other religions are incorrect.

And Muslims believe Mohamed is who he said he is. Cave angel, flying horse thingy, evil Jews and all. 

You believe what the character in a book said he is. In some Star Wars book, Darth Vader says he is Luke's father too. That's the beauty of fiction. Your characters can do and say whatever the hell they want. Yay for fiction!

You're entire basis for claiming to know anything is based entirely on what some human wrote in a book 2000 years ago. In the Muslim's case, they claim to know based on what someone wrote in a book 1300 years ago.

You and a Muslim pick which character's story in a book you believe due to socialization or less charitably, brainwashing. 

Neither the Christian or the Muslim can back up their claims other than pointing at their respective books and saying it says so.

(July 31, 2015 at 12:04 pm)abaris Wrote:

(July 31, 2015 at 11:13 am)Godschild Wrote:  None of the other gods have called me, the God of creation did, I answered and found Him to be real and true to what He has said. It's amazing how quite the other gods are, you would believe they would want to steal followers if they were real, you know offering more than the others.

GC

But I guess if you had been brought up in Jerusalem or Bagdad or Mumbai, you would have been provided with a different phone number. And you would have probably felt the same.

Nope, you should read more carefully, God called me. Like I've said I do not live on speculation of what might have been, it's a waste of time. What has happened has happened and I'm glad of it, you should remember that I don't speculate I'm tired of having to remind you of this.

GC

(July 31, 2015 at 3:58 am)Shuffle Wrote: So let me get this straight. The reasons your religion is unique is because your book and some people described someone inside of the book, some philosophy gibberish inside of the book, and some pages inside the book. 

In all seriousness, however, your factual basis on which you hold most of your beliefs can not be the book in which you hold most of your beliefs. For example, if I say I believe in the Three Little Pigs, I can not point to the title of the book and say, "Proof!" It's dishonest and silly to do so in that context and in the context of your post.

Your post could be evidence that your religion is more unique, but that says nothing about its superior validity when it is confronted by other religions.

Well, I didn't argue all the implicit points, but implied in my argument is that I would expect God to explain/manifest his name/face in creation in detail and remind in detail, and I only find that done in Shia Islam.  It's not something I would expect if I was ignorant, but once you come to understand the concept of God's Name and face as explained in Quran and hadiths of the 12 Imams, then you come to know it's something that God would emphasize on.  The fact no other religion does, points to Islam being the truth. As for Suratal Ikhlaas, I just find how it logically flows but so simple and rhymes really well (every sentence rhymes), and shows logically how to know the most important vital truth and central reminder of all Messenger to be mind boggling.  It spells out the doctrine simple so everyone can understand but has it flow in this implicit majestic manner when thought about philosophically. And the emphasis on the name "The living", it's again, something I would expect God to do. The fact that no other religion does it and makes you think about it, and this was before, the whole philosophical schools that surround it came about, is something that I personally find to be truth from God, because it's what I expect of God yet I don't find it anywhere else. It shows God favors reason and rewards it, through his revelations. Another thing is how much Quran emphasizes on to reflect with both the mind and heart. This is something I would expect of God to do, but something I find missing in other revelations. Also the emphasis to not follow what you have no knowledge of and to bring your proof if you are truthful, I find something uniquely emphasized in the revelation of Mohammad.