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Truth or Love?.. What Matters to you Most?

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Truth or Love?.. What Matters to you Most?
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RE: Truth or Love?.. What Matters to you Most?
August 4, 2015 at 6:49 pm (This post was last modified: August 4, 2015 at 6:52 pm by Whateverist.)
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RE: Truth or Love?.. What Matters to you Most?
August 4, 2015 at 7:04 pm
Truth, by far. I'm not real obsessed with family, like some, whether it be my born family or any family I man (I don't). So, love is kind of...I don't know...unremarkable to me.

As well, I am developmentally impaired from my life with spina bifida. People are afraid to tell disabled folks the truth about them. It'a always "inspirational" this and "brave" that. If we do something wrong or otherwise bad, we aren't told, sometimes, and therefore grow up to do or see things incorrectly.
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RE: Truth or Love?.. What Matters to you Most?
August 4, 2015 at 7:11 pm
Two years ago I would have said there can be truth without love, but no real love without truth.   Now I've found an exception in a rather forceful way.

The exception is dementia.  If you love someone with dementia and for me right now that's both my mother-in-law and my step-father, the truth of what they believe is often irrelevant and correcting them cruel.  They will believe something else in ten minutes anyway.  And yet the basic personality that I know and love is remarkably durable.  And my mother still loves her husband, though he's asked her who she is a couple times now, and my father-in-law still loves his wife though occasionally she accuses him of neglecting her because he doesn't kill that French rapist in the backyard hankering for her 75 year old body.  I still love all of them.
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RE: Truth or Love?.. What Matters to you Most?
August 4, 2015 at 9:54 pm
False dichotomy -- one can have both truth and love in one's life. Both love and truth cut both ways, giving pleasure and pain.

You may as well ask, "Mayonnaise, or eight-cylinder engines?"

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RE: Truth or Love?.. What Matters to you Most?
August 4, 2015 at 11:29 pm
Truth. There's no meaning or value to anything without it.
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RE: Truth or Love?.. What Matters to you Most?
August 4, 2015 at 11:30 pm
Wow, no one voted "Love" xD
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RE: Truth or Love?.. What Matters to you Most?
August 4, 2015 at 11:56 pm
(August 4, 2015 at 11:30 pm)Kitan Wrote: Wow, no one voted "Love" xD

Because Love Stinks! Tongue

Metis did though.
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RE: Truth or Love?.. What Matters to you Most?
August 5, 2015 at 12:33 am
(August 4, 2015 at 11:56 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote:
(August 4, 2015 at 11:30 pm)Kitan Wrote: Wow, no one voted "Love" xD

Because Love Stinks! Tongue

Metis did though.

So did ee cummings.
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RE: Truth or Love?.. What Matters to you Most?
August 5, 2015 at 1:10 am
(August 5, 2015 at 12:33 am)Whateverist the White Wrote:
(August 4, 2015 at 11:56 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote: Because Love Stinks! Tongue

Metis did though.

So did ee cummings.

It sure seemed like it. (Thanks for sharing those poems)

And the - unfortunately he was probably a theist - thing was funny. I looked on Wiki, it says he was a unitarian and a taoist. That fool must have been high on peyote or something!
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RE: Truth or Love?.. What Matters to you Most?
August 5, 2015 at 1:15 am
(August 5, 2015 at 1:10 am)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote:
(August 5, 2015 at 12:33 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: So did ee cummings.

I looked on Wiki, it says he was a unitarian and a taoist. 

That fits.  Like I say, my sense is it isn't god belief as such that he is in favor of so much as openness to wonder that he is signing off on.  I like a lot of his work.
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