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Am I still an atheist if I believe in a higher being?
August 7, 2015 at 11:17 pm
So I stopped believing in God about 4 years ago and still pretending to be a christian when at home. I honestly don't believe I have it in me to become a christian again, too many logical fallacies, inconsistencies and contradictions. But I do believe there may be someone/something up there that started all this off.
Does atheism fall under that or is there another name for it? (For the record I don't believe this being is still involved with us or is probably just watching on a cinema screen type of thing eating popcorn)
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RE: Am I still an atheist if I believe in a higher being?
August 7, 2015 at 11:21 pm
What proof of this 'entity' are you going to provide to us ??
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RE: Am I still an atheist if I believe in a higher being?
August 7, 2015 at 11:22 pm
That is a belief in a generic, non-personal god and goes by the label Deism. Pantheism is somewhat related also. Google them.
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RE: Am I still an atheist if I believe in a higher being?
August 7, 2015 at 11:26 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2015 at 11:27 pm by vixene.)
(August 7, 2015 at 11:21 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: What proof of this 'entity' are you going to provide to us ?? I don't actually have any proof that this exists. However, you don't have any proof it doesn't either.
(August 7, 2015 at 11:22 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: That is a belief in a generic, non-personal god and goes by the label Deism. Pantheism is somewhat related also. Google them. I've heard of that, I doubt I'm pantheistic but perhaps a deist. What's the difference between a deist and a theist?
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RE: Am I still an atheist if I believe in a higher being?
August 7, 2015 at 11:34 pm
Why would you believe that whatever set off the universe is a thinking being rather than a physical process?
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? 
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RE: Am I still an atheist if I believe in a higher being?
August 7, 2015 at 11:35 pm
(August 7, 2015 at 11:26 pm)vixene Wrote: (August 7, 2015 at 11:21 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: What proof of this 'entity' are you going to provide to us ?? I don't actually have any proof that this exists. However, you don't have any proof it doesn't either.
(August 7, 2015 at 11:22 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: That is a belief in a generic, non-personal god and goes by the label Deism. Pantheism is somewhat related also. Google them. I've heard of that, I doubt I'm pantheistic but perhaps a deist. What's the difference between a deist and a theist?
YOU'RE the one making a claim, YOU have to provide proof. I don't have to prove anything. If you got nothing, just say so.
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RE: Am I still an atheist if I believe in a higher being?
August 7, 2015 at 11:39 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2015 at 11:39 pm by vixene.)
(August 7, 2015 at 11:34 pm)JuliaL Wrote: Why would you believe that whatever set off the universe is a thinking being rather than a physical process? It could be either or tbh, not really bothered by what it actually is. Just wondering whether it's reasonable to believe in it and if I'm still classified as an atheist.
(August 7, 2015 at 11:35 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: (August 7, 2015 at 11:26 pm)vixene Wrote: I don't actually have any proof that this exists. However, you don't have any proof it doesn't either.
I've heard of that, I doubt I'm pantheistic but perhaps a deist. What's the difference between a deist and a theist?
YOU'RE the one making a claim, YOU have to provide proof. I don't have to prove anything. If you got nothing, just say so. Erm...I didn't make any claims, I just asked a question. This isn't a debate on whether a higher being exists.
So am I an atheist or not?
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RE: Am I still an atheist if I believe in a higher being?
August 7, 2015 at 11:45 pm
Empty universes, it turns out, are unstable and decay into universes that are not empty.
I'm sparing you about 1/9 of wikipedia with that simplification. No sign of God required to jumpstart things, just sit around and wait.
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RE: Am I still an atheist if I believe in a higher being?
August 7, 2015 at 11:49 pm
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(August 7, 2015 at 11:39 pm)vixene Wrote: (August 7, 2015 at 11:34 pm)JuliaL Wrote: Why would you believe that whatever set off the universe is a thinking being rather than a physical process? It could be either or tbh, not really bothered by what it actually is. Just wondering whether it's reasonable to believe in it and if I'm still classified as an atheist.
(August 7, 2015 at 11:35 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: YOU'RE the one making a claim, YOU have to provide proof. I don't have to prove anything. If you got nothing, just say so. Erm...I didn't make any claims, I just asked a question. This isn't a debate on whether a higher being exists.
So am I an atheist or not?
No.
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RE: Am I still an atheist if I believe in a higher being?
August 7, 2015 at 11:53 pm
(August 7, 2015 at 11:49 pm)c172 Wrote: (August 7, 2015 at 11:39 pm)vixene Wrote: It could be either or tbh, not really bothered by what it actually is. Just wondering whether it's reasonable to believe in it and if I'm still classified as an atheist.
Erm...I didn't make any claims, I just asked a question. This isn't a debate on whether a higher being exists.
So am I an atheist or not?
No. Thank you. I guess I don't fit in on this forum then.
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