(August 8, 2015 at 6:49 am)Alex K Wrote:

(August 8, 2015 at 6:47 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Take a stick of dynamite.  Light the fuse.  Run away.  After the tremendous bang, go back and look for your stick of dynamite.

Boru

I think that's what it would look like if the Mythbusters began to tackle philosophical questions

KABLAAAM

Myth busted.

Yup. Leave it to those guys to settle age-old philosophical conundra by blowing shit up.

Boru

Is the OP Little Rik in another guise? The style of writing and the spellings (not to mention the metaphysical Woo content) seems suspiciously the same.

Quote:She states that sense the soul, what makes us who were are,

At that point you should have stopped her and demanded evidence for a "soul."  You cannot give these fuckers an inch.

(August 8, 2015 at 10:45 am)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:She states that sense the soul, what makes us who were are,

At that point you should have stopped her and demanded evidence for a "soul."  You cannot give these fuckers an inch.

Evidence? I can't even get a fucking definition, Min. Let's not get ahead of ourselves -_-

(August 8, 2015 at 6:47 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(August 8, 2015 at 2:39 am)uniquepegasister Wrote: Hello,

I was debating with a Christian friend of mine resently and she had an interesting thought about how god religion ect. Exist. She states that sense the soul, what makes us who were are, are electrical and chemical instances in our brian, essentially energy, that sense energy can noy be created nor destroyed then thqt proves that when the physical body ceased to exist the 'soul' of a person lives on by energy. In that she stated that that proves religion and afterlife are real. So i ask for any thoughts on the matter as i personally think it's a bit to far fetched.

Take a stick of dynamite.  Light the fuse.  Run away.  After the tremendous bang, go back and look for your stick of dynamite.

Boru

First of all that everything that comprised that stick of dynamite still exists, it's just in a different form. Matter and energy both have mass, which means if the dynamite was converted into energy, it still physically exists because energy has mass.

(August 8, 2015 at 2:44 am)Lucanus Wrote: When you die, the chemical energy that your brain and body use simply dissipates. It is not destroyed, rather, it is passed on to the various small lifeforms that help our body decompose.
*edit*
I should add that for a bunch of so-called "critical thinkers" none of you questioned what Boru said (matter / energy cannot be created or destroyed remember), just blindly gave kudos, which shows you'll blindly follow any doctrine, as long as it's against religion...

A battery supplies energy chemically, but when a battery "dies" it can be recharged, why can't you then do the same for a human body?

(August 8, 2015 at 8:42 am)vodkafan Wrote: Is the OP Little Rik in another guise? The style of writing and the spellings (not to mention the metaphysical Woo content) seems suspiciously the same.

I doubt it.
He doesn't post every sentence in a new line.
Like this.
Which gets really annoying.
Also, there's no massive overuse of smilies, for example no   or   or

(August 8, 2015 at 3:12 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(August 8, 2015 at 6:47 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Take a stick of dynamite.  Light the fuse.  Run away.  After the tremendous bang, go back and look for your stick of dynamite.

Boru

First of all that everything that comprised that stick of dynamite still exists, it's just in a different form. Matter and energy both have mass, which means if the dynamite was converted into energy, it still physically exists because energy has mass.

The stuff that makes up your mind still exists when you die, but it is no longer your mind, just as that apple you ate earlier was not a part of your mind before you ate it and your body processed it.

(August 8, 2015 at 3:12 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(August 8, 2015 at 2:44 am)Lucanus Wrote: When you die, the chemical energy that your brain and body use simply dissipates. It is not destroyed, rather, it is passed on to the various small lifeforms that help our body decompose.

A battery supplies energy chemically, but when a battery "dies" it can be recharged, why can't you then do the same for a human body?

If a body has not fully died yet, a person can sometimes be resuscitated. But once the brain deteriorates too much, it cannot "hold a charge" (to use your battery metaphor). A battery, too, can be too degraded to be able to be recharged.

(August 8, 2015 at 3:33 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: The stuff that makes up your mind still exists when you die, but it is no longer your mind, just as that apple you ate earlier was not a part of your mind before you ate it and your body processed it.

the stuff that makes up your mind is matter, not energy, and that energy that caused your brain to function will always exist.

(August 8, 2015 at 3:33 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: If a body has not fully died yet, a person can sometimes be resuscitated.  But once the brain deteriorates too much, it cannot "hold a charge" (to use your battery metaphor).  A battery, too, can be too degraded to be able to be recharged.

Fully died? I don't think there is a such thing as "halfway dead" either there is life or there isn't.

(August 8, 2015 at 3:45 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(August 8, 2015 at 3:33 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: The stuff that makes up your mind still exists when you die, but it is no longer your mind, just as that apple you ate earlier was not a part of your mind before you ate it and your body processed it.

the stuff that makes up your mind is matter, not energy, and that energy that caused your brain to function will always exist.

No the 'stuff' that makes up your mind (not brain) is a persistent pattern of energy and matter.

(August 8, 2015 at 3:45 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: ...

(August 8, 2015 at 3:33 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: If a body has not fully died yet, a person can sometimes be resuscitated.  But once the brain deteriorates too much, it cannot "hold a charge" (to use your battery metaphor).  A battery, too, can be too degraded to be able to be recharged.

Fully died? I don't think there is a such thing as "halfway dead" either there is life or there isn't.

In the case of the human body, one can speak of individual cells being dead or alive, and one can also speak of the person as a whole as being dead or alive.  While the person is alive, many cells die and one is always carrying around some dead cells.  When the person as a whole is first dead, typically, many of the individual cells are still alive.  If all of the individual cells are dead, the person is well and truly dead completely.  But one can speak of parts still being alive while the person is dead.  It is in the intermediate stages where things get a bit murky.  This is why there are discussions about keeping bodies alive in hospitals, and there can be some dispute over whether the person is dead or not.

(The first part was dealt with by  I_am_not_mafia, so I am simply omitting it in my reply.)