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If God changed his mind
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(August 9, 2015 at 2:32 pm)pool Wrote: I guess you're kind o like Mother Theresa then :-(

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If you like think suffering can bring someone closer to God... Sad
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(August 9, 2015 at 2:27 pm)Drich Wrote:
(August 9, 2015 at 1:31 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Well at least I never forgot that part. I just think that given what you said that the context of why you said doesn't actually matter. You wished harm upon us and I really don't give a fuck about your excuse as to why.
Please tell me your really not that stupid....

I offered to pray what ever it took to find God, for anyone who wanted me to. (Again, this could mean a winning lottery ticket or cancer/aids) This is nothing different than what I prayed for myself and I found God.

You spun that offer for a reason not to have to think about unleashing your hate. Your words tell me that your just looking for a reason to feel justified in your bigotry. You are looking for a key word to turn your logic and reason off, and you found one. Your not giving a f*ck why proves this.

Your words makes you the monster. To wish only "good things" on someone even if it means their long term ruin is beyond contemptible. Would you only allow your kids to eat the cake and candy they want to eat all day every day? Or would you provide them with a balanced diet even if they hated healthy food, and only want to eat what tastes good?

Well lets see. First off I'm not your kid, second off I guess I am a bigot because of my hate the sin not sinner attitude towards Christianity. But what scares me is that your belief system has your mind so twisted that you inflicting torture on someone is equilevant to making a kid eat their vegetables. How about before you start wishing shit on us, or even coming to an atheist forum, how about talking to the other 40000 kinds of Christian so you guys can get your story straight, because even you guys on this forum can't agree with each other.
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Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
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That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
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(August 9, 2015 at 12:11 pm)Drich Wrote:
(August 9, 2015 at 11:26 am)I\m Lemonvariable72 Wrote: This is the guy that started praying for a bunch of us to catch aids.

Don't forget cancer, I was willing to prayer for cancer too. In short I was willing to pray for what ever it took to win individual souls over, whether it be a winning lottery ticket or aids/cancer (which btw was my route)

But you 'honest/good people' always seem to selectively forget that part

Can't remember that post, one way or the other.

What I will say is that, either way, it demonstrates the power of prayer absolutely - no power at all.

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(July 18, 2015 at 2:00 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(July 18, 2015 at 11:18 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Okay that was the point I was getting at with this question. If you knew for certain that it was God and he was telling the truth when he told you that not to commit murder was a sin, would you kill people?

If I understand what you're saying ( if God told me that murder wasn't a sin would I murder, is this the question)? You see when I answered your question before I said I knew God's mind to a point because He had revealed things to me. He revealed He wasn't a liar, nor could He be. God as already stated in the Bible that murder was a sin, for God to say to me murder wasn't a sin would then be a lie. God doesn't lie so He wouldn't tell me murder wasn't a sin, now the old devil might try that trick, however I would know better because Jesus said that those who are His would recognize His voice.

GC

You do know that changing your mind and lying are two completely different things, right?
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(July 21, 2015 at 1:18 pm)Godschild Wrote: I do not invest my life in hypothetical situations

Yes you do. Gawd can never be more than a hypothetical without evidence of which you have precisely none.
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(August 8, 2015 at 5:38 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(August 8, 2015 at 10:31 am)lkingpinl Wrote: Um wow. I hope that was just a really bad sarcastic joke.

I am sure Drich was joking.

Not in my taste, mind you, but not all that different from the jokes some people here make about Christians, either. Undecided

Don't be so sure. He's wished and prayed for truly vile things to happen to members here before.
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(August 8, 2015 at 10:33 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Although this is not something God would command, had he commanded people to kill their own selves (suicide) or to all leave their homes, it would be better for them to obey God then not to obey him. This shows death in obedience to God or homelessness in obedience to God is better then living in disobedience, and the fact that obeying God trumps everything.

Might makes right and blind obedience as a virtue. Your beliefs are truly sickening.
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(August 9, 2015 at 2:27 pm)Drich Wrote: Please tell me your really not that stupid....

I offered to pray what ever it took to find God, for anyone who wanted me to. (Again, this could mean a winning lottery ticket or cancer/aids) This is nothing different than what I prayed for myself and I found God.

What if I told you that the sentiment "I would be okay with, and will in fact entreat, my god to beat the crap out of you, in order to make you agree with me," is vicious and terrible no matter how much doublespeak you inject into it first?
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(August 9, 2015 at 4:33 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(August 9, 2015 at 2:27 pm)Drich Wrote: Please tell me your really not that stupid....

I offered to pray what ever it took to find God, for anyone who wanted me to. (Again, this could mean a winning lottery ticket or cancer/aids) This is nothing different than what I prayed for myself and I found God.

What if I told you that the sentiment "I would be okay with, and will in fact entreat, my god to beat the crap out of you, in order to make you agree with me," is vicious and terrible no matter how much doublespeak you inject into it first?

Can I make a suggestion?

I'm not saying that I agree with praying for someone to get cancer in any scenario. I think doing so is wrong, even if it ends up being for the greater good.

Now I'm going to repeat those lines because I'm sure someone will accuse me of it anyway:

I'm not saying that I agree with praying for someone to get cancer in any scenario. I think doing so is wrong, even if it ends up being for the greater good.

With that being said, if you are truly trying to understand where Drich is coming from, you have to look at it through his lenses. What's worse... battling cancer for a limited amount of time, or eternity in torment? He believes that people who do not believe in God go to Hell (a sentiment I also don't share, mind you).

Drich also said it took him getting cancer to find God.

So, since he believes the worst possible thing that can happen to someone is to be in eternal torment, and since he believes that not believing in God will get you there, and since he personally didn't find God until he got cancer, can you at least understand where he is coming from when he says that he would rather someone go through absolutely anything, regardless of how bad it is, if it would mean avoiding the worst thing of all?
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