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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
August 18, 2015 at 7:24 pm
msid Wrote:there really is no discussion here if you are just going to shoot down everything i say. If you're not here to convert anybody, exactly what kind of decision are you looking for?
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
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Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
August 18, 2015 at 7:31 pm
She was hoping to discuss why we are in denial?
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
August 18, 2015 at 7:46 pm
(August 18, 2015 at 7:31 pm)ignoramus Wrote: She was hoping to discuss why we are in denial?
In denial of a delusion. I could go to a Christian board and ask them to discuss why they don't believe in Dionysus. There's plenty evidence of wine and drama, so he exists.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
August 18, 2015 at 7:49 pm
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(August 18, 2015 at 5:57 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (August 18, 2015 at 4:02 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: Don't encourage him! He's insufferable when he gets on one of his "atheier than thou" kicks. No one believes less. No one is more skeptical. No one can blaspheme better. Fuck. With Stimbo, it's one atheist dick measuring contest after another.
Which I always win, naturally. I learned long ago that it's not just for stirring my coffee with. The security in Starbucks told me.
Now I wonder. Was the security like "Excuse me Sir, if I may - did you know that it's not just for stirring coffee?", or is that merely your interpretation of "get off the premises now or I'll fuck you up" ^^
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
August 18, 2015 at 8:12 pm
It's how I choose to remember it, yes.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
August 19, 2015 at 4:27 am
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Very smart of God to invent the devil and "nature" so that he can point at them whenever anything bad happens.
Even the young lady said "Life isn't fair". That sounds like a clear admission that God is either not all loving, or is severely lacking in resources.
Oh yes, he blames us too, because of fruit consumption before out birth. It's everyone's fault but gods. Except when something good happens, then it was all his doing! Otherwise known as confirmation bias, which is all religion is (plus the placebo effect).
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
August 19, 2015 at 7:34 am
Why was the devil even made? That seems counterproductive. I'd get it if God was a fantasy author and we're all characters in a storybook, but we're not, and he isn't.
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
August 19, 2015 at 7:35 am
(August 19, 2015 at 7:34 am)ToriJ Wrote: I'd get it if God was a fantasy author and we're all characters in a storybook, but we're not, and he isn't.
Matter of fact the reverse is true
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
August 19, 2015 at 7:42 am
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(August 19, 2015 at 7:34 am)ToriJ Wrote: Why was the devil even made? That seems counterproductive. I'd get it if God was a fantasy author and we're all characters in a storybook, but we're not, and he isn't.
Because of free will. That seems to cover everything. The ultimate scapegoat. Maybe the devil is free will?
Even his own angels got bored of his shit and stupid rules.
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RE: christian looking to understand athiests
August 19, 2015 at 7:50 am
(August 19, 2015 at 7:42 am)robvalue Wrote: (August 19, 2015 at 7:34 am)ToriJ Wrote: Why was the devil even made? That seems counterproductive. I'd get it if God was a fantasy author and we're all characters in a storybook, but we're not, and he isn't.
Because of free will. That seems to cover everything. The ultimate scapegoat. Maybe the devil is free will?
Even his own angels got bored of his shit and stupid rules.
Why are we here? Free will. What's the meaning of life? Free will. Why was JFK shot? Free will.
Free will is love! Free will is life!
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