(August 15, 2015 at 5:31 am)alpha male Wrote:

(August 14, 2015 at 3:20 pm)Shuffle Wrote: Man, this thread is depressing.

You know what I find sad? The many threads on this site in which atheists talk about their depression and other mental illnesses and how they hop from one drug to another looking for relief.

Because only atheists have ever been depressed.

Truth be told,i did get depressed after i figured out God wasn't real because i felt like i had nothing more to live for.
Through time i found purpose in my life and now am happier than ever.

(August 19, 2015 at 5:02 am)pool Wrote: Truth be told,i did get depressed after i figured out God wasn't real because i felt like i had nothing more to live for.
Through time i found purpose in my life and now am happier than ever.

I think that is pretty normal.  Everyone I know in real life who is a former Christian felt that way about it.

(August 19, 2015 at 9:32 am)Pyrrho Wrote:

(August 19, 2015 at 5:02 am)pool Wrote: Truth be told,i did get depressed after i figured out God wasn't real because i felt like i had nothing more to live for.
Through time i found purpose in my life and now am happier than ever.

I think that is pretty normal.  Everyone I know in real life who is a former Christian felt that way about it.

Precisely why I answered how I did, because I feel the same way.  Without God, there is no ultimate meaning.

And gawd knows you can't get through life on provisional truth. Oh wait, that's pretty much the only kind any of us ever has. Unless you're saying believing in gods gives you god inspired knowledge?

I never gone through a 'depressed' or 'sorrow' stage during transition. Maybe if I wasn't told God would send me to hell if I didn't do X all my life I would've been sadder at his nonexistence, but as it stands, I'm pretty okay with it.

(August 19, 2015 at 9:58 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: And gawd knows you can't get through life on provisional truth.  Oh wait, that's pretty much the only kind any of us ever has.  Unless you're saying believing in gods gives you god inspired knowledge?

Are you implying there is no absolute truth?

Absolutely. There certainly is the way things stand. I believe in a real, physical world alright, but statements regarding those things? Their truth is not only contingent upon the way things actually stand in the world but on the adequacy of language to capture important aspects of those things. I think descriptions of reality are always incomplete and filtered by the language. Statements are never 'absolute'. Therefore truth cannot be either.

(August 19, 2015 at 10:44 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: Absolutely.  There certainly is the way things stand.  I believe in a real, physical world alright, but statements regarding those things?  Their truth is not only contingent upon the way things actually stand in the world but on the adequacy of language to capture important aspects of those things.  I think descriptions of reality are always incomplete and filtered by the language.  Statements are never 'absolute'.  Therefore truth cannot be either.

But that logic would make this statement not absolute and not always true.  It's self defeating.

(August 19, 2015 at 10:56 am)lkingpinl Wrote:

(August 19, 2015 at 10:44 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: Absolutely.  There certainly is the way things stand.  I believe in a real, physical world alright, but statements regarding those things?  Their truth is not only contingent upon the way things actually stand in the world but on the adequacy of language to capture important aspects of those things.  I think descriptions of reality are always incomplete and filtered by the language.  Statements are never 'absolute'.  Therefore truth cannot be either.

But that logic would make this statement not absolute and not always true.  It's self defeating.

Exactly.  Unfortunately for you my statement doesn't leave room for its negation or any other statement to be absolute.