(August 20, 2015 at 10:33 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:

(August 20, 2015 at 9:53 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: The alma mater does say one thing: some college grads ARE smarter than others. And the fact that some Christians went to really good schools suggests that not all Christians are stupid...a fact that is lost on the crowd here who didn't go to those same schools.

Just sayin'.

Maybe you were there for athletic abilities.  Georgia Tech has repeatedly violated the rules for using athletes who are not academically qualified:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2227377

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/...-probation

Not everyone who attends a school is a good student.  Regardless of the quality of the school itself.


Also, your willingness to plagiarize might be due to your experiences in school:

http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/200...s-ga-tech/

In the article, one may observe that being caught cheating does not get one expelled from Georgia Tech.  Great school alright!

(August 20, 2015 at 9:55 pm)lkingpinl Wrote:

(August 20, 2015 at 9:41 pm)Jenny A Wrote: I have a funny story about that GT bee of yours.  My brother-in-law who is an embezzler (don't worry his wife and Jesus forgave him), and more money oriented than anyone I know (his conversation is all about salary and cost of toys), but also an evangelical (he can't talk about his church without talking about money either) had your avatar in the form of a flag on his lawn.   Yeah, I don't like him much though I love my husband's sister.  But getting back to my story his bee caused me to Google image search it as I suspected a Christian symbol that I didn't know about.  Nope:  Georgia Tech, his alma mater.  It's a very good school.  But it didn't teach you to reason dispassionately or how to weigh evidence.  And it didn't teach him ethics or even how to go about embezzling very well.

I went to Michigan. What does that say about me?  J/K.

(August 20, 2015 at 10:15 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:

(August 20, 2015 at 10:02 pm)Jenny A Wrote:

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I've never said you were stupid, just deluded in a particular area where you use your intelligence to avoid rather than to confront facts.  My brother in law is a bright cookie.  But he condemns the morals of others all the time despite an avarice of his own so large it lead to embellishment.  He jokes about killing people too, but what's a little murder among family? 

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You shrug off plagiarism.  "Big whoop." 

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Jenny, seriously, you are a cut above most of the folks in this forum...at least you present yourself in a more mature manner than most, okay? Now, work through this with me (and look at it from my vantage point for just a moment):

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As a Christian, I'm interested in helping as many people see the truth as possible, right? I'm not getting paid for this, I'll never be famous for anything I post, I have nothing to gain from anything I say here, agreed? So, when some dolt asks about Osiris or Horus or God-knows-what kind of nonsense, do I really need to spend two hours crafting an original responses when two clicks and 30 seconds later I can put solid Christian answers into the minds of those who are dying for lack of truth? I mean, be serious.

If I post William Lane Craig, they go crazy. If I mention Habermas & Licona, they turn off their minds. And even if I cite Bart Ehrman, they discount everything that I post. How do you handle such "anti-EVERYTHING-remotely-supportive-of-Christianity-prejudice"??????

So, I posted an article WITHOUT referencing the original author. Big whoop. People who would not have read the post otherwise DID, in fact, read it because they did not have the NAME of the actual author as a presuppositional roadblock to prevent them from doing so.

"Just a spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down"...as the old song goes, Jenny. If I helped someone get past their own biases to hear what Licona had to say by posting it without mentioning his name, GOOD FOR THEM.

(August 21, 2015 at 12:08 am)Jenny A Wrote:

(August 20, 2015 at 10:15 pm)Randy Carson Wrote:

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Jenny, seriously, you are a cut above most of the folks in this forum...at least you present yourself in a more mature manner than most, okay? Now, work through this with me (and look at it from my vantage point for just a moment):

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As a Christian, I'm interested in helping as many people see the truth as possible, right? I'm not getting paid for this, I'll never be famous for anything I post, I have nothing to gain from anything I say here, agreed? So, when some dolt asks about Osiris or Horus or God-knows-what kind of nonsense, do I really need to spend two hours crafting an original responses when two clicks and 30 seconds later I can put solid Christian answers into the minds of those who are dying for lack of truth? I mean, be serious.

If I post William Lane Craig, they go crazy. If I mention Habermas & Licona, they turn off their minds. And even if I cite Bart Ehrman, they discount everything that I post. How do you handle such "anti-EVERYTHING-remotely-supportive-of-Christianity-prejudice"??????

So, I posted an article WITHOUT referencing the original author. Big whoop. People who would not have read the post otherwise DID, in fact, read it because they did not have the NAME of the actual author as a presuppositional roadblock to prevent them from doing so.

"Just a spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down"...as the old song goes, Jenny. If I helped someone get past their own biases to hear what Licona had to say by posting it without mentioning his name, GOOD FOR THEM.

Sorry, but no.  It's still plagiarism.  No matter how hard it is to make your argument or be heard without it, it's wrong.  Basically, you are saying I'm not winning, so it's alright to cheat.  Whether you will become famous, or make money by winning matters not.

(August 21, 2015 at 12:15 am)Randy Carson Wrote:

(August 21, 2015 at 12:08 am)Jenny A Wrote:

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Sorry, but no.  It's still plagiarism.  No matter how hard it is to make your argument or be heard without it, it's wrong.  Basically, you are saying I'm not winning, so it's alright to cheat.  Whether you will become famous, or make money by winning matters not.

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Winning? This is not a zero-sum game, Jenny.

And if someone reads something I post, and their eternal destiny is changed for the better, who is the loser?

(August 21, 2015 at 12:17 am)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: As I said in another thread, any lie told for jeebus is ok.

(August 21, 2015 at 12:19 am)Jenny A Wrote:

(August 21, 2015 at 12:15 am)Randy Carson Wrote: Winning? This is not a zero-sum game, Jenny.

And if someone reads something I post, and their eternal destiny is changed for the better, who is the loser?

If you have to lie and cheat to get the message across, chances are it's a bad message.  There is really no such thing as eternal destiny.  When you die you die.  You might cheat them into wasting the one life they have though.

(August 21, 2015 at 12:23 am)Randy Carson Wrote:

(August 21, 2015 at 12:17 am)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: As I said in another thread, any lie told for jeebus is ok.

And you've been wrong twice.

I didn't lie; what I posted about the "dying and rising gods" nonsense was the truth.