(August 20, 2015 at 6:07 pm)Lucanus Wrote:

(August 20, 2015 at 3:15 pm)Little Rik Wrote: I agree that all this appear like rubbish to someone who relate everything to a science that deal
with the physical world.
Unfortunately for you your idea of man as an entity made only of physicality does not exist.

Or does it? Why should I believe this? What are the facts that make you say this?

Also, that does not appear rubbish to me because I "relate everything" to naturalistic science. I would be really happy to learn that there is a whole new plane of reality to explore and tap into - but where's the evidence? I simply don't want to be deceived.

(August 20, 2015 at 3:15 pm)Little Rik Wrote: Man is a lot more than a physical entity therefore he also need something else that is not
physical.

Or is it? Hell, how do you even prove the existence of something that is not physical? Why don't you ever give a shred of evidence for what you say?

(August 20, 2015 at 3:15 pm)Little Rik Wrote: To me what is important is not whether Shiva existed or not although i believe he did exist.
What i value most is whether these teaching are working or not in the sense that they give result.
And guess what Luc?
They do work.  

And here lies your fundamental error - the "teachings" you believe in might work. Sure, they might. But it doesn't mean that they are right.

Now, suppose we're two ancient Romans, living in a villa in the countryside near Naples. One day, you get a fever. So, I go to the woods nearby, to the white willow tree, and take some of its bark to make an extract. While preparing the willow tree extract I say my prayers to Esculapius, and then I give it to you to drink.
On the next day, you wake up, and, lo and behold, the temperature's gone! Obviously, Esculapius has listened to my prayers and blessed the holy extract. The method has worked, therefore Esculapius must be true.

Turns out, though, that this kind of reasoning ("Post hoc ergo propter hoc", to use some gratuitous Latin) is wrong and fallacious.

In fact, today, with our understanding of chemistry and physiology, we know that the curative properties of the willow bark extract are not blessings of Esculapius, but instead the result of the chemical properties of one of the components of the extract (salicilic acid) that we still use today, albeit with a little modification to reduce its toxicity, as the Aspirin.

The fact that something works does not imply that the explanation you are giving for it is correct, as there might be some other explanations that work too. If you think your explanation is correct, then prove it. This is how science works in general, not just "physical science".