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Atheist and the Death penalty
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What does give me pause about the Death Penality is this: that there are people who are up for the death penalty that have been found to be innocent, mostly through the work of The Innocence Project. So, I would support that The Innocence Project work with every person on death row prior to execution, to ensure that nothing has been overlooked for them.
Putting innocent people to death is not good.  (September 2, 2015 at 11:50 am)Handprint Wrote:(September 2, 2015 at 11:48 am)Neimenovic Wrote: And that makes it ok to kill them? Am I intimating otherwise? I'm trying to have a conversation. If you want me to fuck off, say so. So you would feel totally justified killing a person you thought deserved to die? I mean, I think Pat Robertson deserves to have his car stolen, to say the least. But I don't think it's ok to steal his car, and I would still condemn someone who did it. We're talking about institutionalizing murder here. You know, fucking killing people. I think that's barbaric.  Quote:But surely a bullet to the head or the guillotine would be just as effective and a lot cheaper? It isn't the method that makes it expensive. It's the appeals process. (September 2, 2015 at 12:00 pm)Handprint Wrote: What does give me pause about the Death Penality is this: that there are people who are up for the death penalty that have been found to be innocent, mostly through the work of The Innocence Project. So, I would support that The Innocence Project work with every person on death row prior to execution, to ensure that nothing has been overlooked for them. But it will inevitably happen, even with projects like that, which can't possibly ensure 100% efficiency, or work with all the convicted everywhere. At least one innocent will be wrongly executed. RE: Atheist and the Death penalty
September 2, 2015 at 12:06 pm
(This post was last modified: September 2, 2015 at 12:08 pm by Handprint.)
(September 2, 2015 at 12:00 pm)Neimenovic Wrote:(September 2, 2015 at 11:50 am)Handprint Wrote: Yes. It honestly doesn't feel like a conversastion with you. I would like you to back off yes. It seems like you are opposing me just because you dislike the death penality, rather than bringing arguments to the table that might give me pause or rethink my stance, or that explain why you feel as you feel other than to state in moralistic terms that it is "barbaric". Hell *I* had to bring up an argument that brought *me* pause instead of you doing that for me. And yes, for the 2nd or perhaps 3rd time I would feel justified in killing a person who committed murder. Why do I keep having to say that? Yes. I support the death penalty. Yes, I think certain crimes should have the death penality as a punishment. I'm sorry my answer isn't good enough for you and I have to repeat myself ad nauseum. Back off.
K. No need to get worked up, mate c:
 (September 2, 2015 at 11:46 am)Handprint Wrote: It's okay for them to die, and I think they should die, period. Perhaps when you can fashion a system which does not kill innocent people, you might make some good sledding. But until then, your points above are simply an appeal to emotion bereft of any sound reasoning supporting your position. 
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope?
Everyone seems to be asking why it is justifiable to execute some criminals, can anyone answer why not? Is human life sacred or is the risk of killing an innocent person too high?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
Risk?
It is not a bug in the system, it's a feature. http://camerontoddwillingham.com/ Quote:The Washington Post reports in “Fresh Doubts Over a Texas Execution” about new information on how a jailhouse snitch lied to help prosecutors convict Todd Willingham. |
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