(September 8, 2015 at 8:20 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:

(September 8, 2015 at 6:42 pm)Aroura Wrote: Bolded mine.
This isn't true of guns OR cars.  That's why the word "accident" still exists.

So your afraid every time you drive? No of course not, because most of us understand that while yes there is always a potential for accidents if you treat the car with proper diligence and respect the chance of a accident on a given day is miniscule, same is true with guns.

Yes, I'm afraid every time I drive.  A little.  And if you AREN'T, then I don't want to be on the road with you.  It's alert type fear.  I'm aware I'm driving a multi-ton killing machine, so I am extra careful with it.  At the same time, every time I leave the house, part of me knows I might not come back.  I don't think enough people are afraid of their cars and trucks, TBH.  Respectful fear, not hide under a blanket fear.

Perhaps this is just a reality check.  You see, when I was 17, I almost DIED in a car crash. Seriously. Wanne see the head injury scar?  I can post pics.  
But anyway, I'm more aware than most people, I guess, that the vehicle I'm driving and those around me could kill me at any moment.  Even though it was along time ago, it's a lesson I took to heart.

And yes, I feel the same about guns. I'm not terrified of them. As I've stated, I was raised with them, and feel I made a competent gun owner when I was one.  BUT I made the informed decision to rid myself of that unneccesary risk.  I still need my freaking car to get around, because the nearest store is 5 miles away, but I ride my bike with my kid when we aren't picking up things we need to cary, like groceries.  Trust me, if I could, I would ban large vehicles except in cases of special need, and reduce speed limits, and encourage people to ride bikes, scooters, etc, as much as possible.

There is risk in everything.  The point is risk vs reward.  I don't get enough out of a gun to warrent the risk (and few people do, they just THINK they do).  I DO get enough out of my car to warrent the risk, even though I hate taking that risk.

Hope that made sense.

(September 8, 2015 at 8:41 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:

(September 8, 2015 at 7:26 pm)Losty Wrote: That's why he's funny. When did every get so whiny? Ppl make rude/vulgar/offensive jokes here all the time. Lighten up guys

That's why it's your opinion that he's funny. I'm whiny because I take people at face value on the internet? Where sarcasm/ humor is almost undetectable without notation? Where certain people are dickheads even when they think they're being funny?

In my opinion, yes.

(September 8, 2015 at 8:41 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:

(September 8, 2015 at 7:26 pm)Losty Wrote: That's why he's funny. When did every get so whiny? Ppl make rude/vulgar/offensive jokes here all the time. Lighten up guys

That's why it's your opinion that he's funny. I'm whiny because I take people at face value on the internet? Where sarcasm/ humor is almost undetectable without notation? Where certain people are dickheads even when they think they're being funny?

Ok then.

Some people are even more of a dickhead when they believe they are being funny.  Some people seem to confuse being a piece of shit with being funny.

Banning large vehicles? Does delivering food to supermarkets count as a special need? How about gas to gas stations? Parts to factories? Lumber for housing?

Without the economies of scale, such a measure would drive up the price of most goods and many services. Sorry, that's even more unrealistic than banning handguns.

(September 8, 2015 at 9:43 pm)Pyrrho Wrote:

(September 8, 2015 at 8:41 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: That's why it's your opinion that he's funny. I'm whiny because I take people at face value on the internet? Where sarcasm/ humor is almost undetectable without notation? Where certain people are dickheads even when they think they're being funny?

Ok then.

Some people are even more of a dickhead when they believe they are being funny.  Some people seem to confuse being a piece of shit with being funny.

My dad's sense of humor came at the expense of others; he was more dickhead than funny.

(September 8, 2015 at 10:14 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:

(September 8, 2015 at 9:43 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: Some people are even more of a dickhead when they believe they are being funny.  Some people seem to confuse being a piece of shit with being funny.

My dad's sense of humor came at the expense of others; he was more dickhead than funny.

I know the type.  Unfortunately.

(September 8, 2015 at 9:00 pm)Aroura Wrote:

(September 8, 2015 at 8:20 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: So your afraid every time you drive? No of course not, because most of us understand that while yes there is always a potential for accidents if you treat the car with proper diligence and respect the chance of a accident on a given day is miniscule, same is true with guns.

Yes, I'm afraid every time I drive.  A little.  And if you AREN'T, then I don't want to be on the road with you.  It's alert type fear.  I'm aware I'm driving a multi-ton killing machine, so I am extra careful with it.  At the same time, every time I leave the house, part of me knows I might not come back.  I don't think enough people are afraid of their cars and trucks, TBH.  Respectful fear, not hide under a blanket fear.

Perhaps this is just a reality check.  You see, when I was 17, I almost DIED in a car crash. Seriously. Wanne see the head injury scar?  I can post pics.  
But anyway, I'm more aware than most people, I guess, that the vehicle I'm driving and those around me could kill me at any moment.  Even though it was along time ago, it's a lesson I took to heart.

And yes, I feel the same about guns. I'm not terrified of them. As I've stated, I was raised with them, and feel I made a competent gun owner when I was one.  BUT I made the informed decision to rid myself of that unneccesary risk.  I still need my freaking car to get around, because the nearest store is 5 miles away, but I ride my bike with my kid when we aren't picking up things we need to cary, like groceries.  Trust me, if I could, I would ban large vehicles except in cases of special need, and reduce speed limits, and encourage people to ride bikes, scooters, etc, as much as possible.

There is risk in everything.  The point is risk vs reward.  I don't get enough out of a gun to warrent the risk (and few people do, they just THINK they do).  I DO get enough out of my car to warrent the risk, even though I hate taking that risk.

Hope that made sense.

So you just said the same thing I said about cars using different words. As for what other gun owners get out of them, you have no right to assign that so long as they take every reasonable precaution. Of course nobody is arguing ban guns, so if we can enact laws that allow sane, responsible, and stable people to own guns then that's how it should be done. The problem is getting that legislation with the gun lobby in place and all the guns in circulation.