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(September 20, 2015 at 9:52 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:
(August 24, 2015 at 7:17 am)Randy Carson Wrote: First, we are instructed to make disciples of all nations (as you note below), and second, we think we have a pretty important message that will benefit others.
I'm going to address this point, even coming late to the party, because there's a very important counter point that Randy seems to be missing.
We've all heard you message Randy. Many time in many flavors. Imagine taking a weekend and spending it channel surfing. The entire weekend, all 48 hours worth. Now, take out all the television programming, leaving just the commercials. This is how you sound to us. We've heard it all before, over and over and over again.
There's a reason I never buy I-phones, Budweiser or shop at Walmart. Their marketing doesn't convince me.
September 21, 2015 at 2:29 am (This post was last modified: September 21, 2015 at 2:29 am by robvalue.)
I don't have a presupposition that God doesn't exist. The fact that you think that of me, or of anyone here, shows you haven't actually listened to anything we've said. I've had enough once and for all, goodbye.
Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists.
September 21, 2015 at 12:01 pm (This post was last modified: September 21, 2015 at 12:05 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
49 pages of spammy, unoriginal, link baity uselessness.
Not a single reason - if all of it were true - why I'd join your little club. Kim Jong Un exists, he's real too......I'm not trying to smuggle myself into N. Korea on account of that fact, and neither are you.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(August 28, 2015 at 7:28 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Tacitus. AD 116.
A) 116CE is not contemporary with c.33CE. It is 80 years past, nearly three whole generations later. So again you are wrong.
B) Tacitus doesn't actually speak about Jesus. He speaks about a man named Chrestus. Now the thing about the Latin name Chrestus is that at the time it was so common both as a given name and a title that there are literally thousands of references to different people with the name in the surviving fragments of Roman records and books. So the very best you get from Tacitus is that there was a group in Rome at c.65CE who followed an unidentified Chrestus who was killed under the orders of Pilate.
C) The authenticity of the passage, or it's sources are heavily in doubt, because there is no shred of evidence that Nero persecuted any group calling themselves 'Chrestians' or 'Christians' after the burning of Rome. The fact of the matter is that the church itself invented the 'persecutions', along with most other supposed persecutions by the Roman state in the 4th century.
So again you fail Randy. Tell me, how do you put up with such constant and unremitting failure?
September 21, 2015 at 3:34 pm (This post was last modified: September 21, 2015 at 3:35 pm by Pyrrho.)
(September 21, 2015 at 2:28 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote:
(August 28, 2015 at 7:28 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: Tacitus. AD 116.
A) 116CE is not contemporary with c.33CE. It is 80 years past, nearly three whole generations later. So again you are wrong.
B) Tacitus doesn't actually speak about Jesus. He speaks about a man named Chrestus. Now the thing about the Latin name Chrestus is that at the time it was so common both as a given name and a title that there are literally thousands of references to different people with the name in the surviving fragments of Roman records and books. So the very best you get from Tacitus is that there was a group in Rome at c.65CE who followed an unidentified Chrestus who was killed under the orders of Pilate.
C) The authenticity of the passage, or it's sources are heavily in doubt, because there is no shred of evidence that Nero persecuted any group calling themselves 'Chrestians' or 'Christians' after the burning of Rome. The fact of the matter is that the church itself invented the 'persecutions', along with most other supposed persecutions by the Roman state in the 4th century.
So again you fail Randy. Tell me, how do you put up with such constant and unremitting failure?
(September 21, 2015 at 12:31 am)rexbeccarox Wrote: Randy has to be a Poe. Seriously.
(September 21, 2015 at 12:32 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: I'm starting to think of him as more spammer than troll or Poe. But who says you can't be more than one thing?
None of the above. I'm quite happy to answer any questions or tackle any objections you may have to theism in general or Christianity in particular.
Does this forum exist to DISCUSS these questions? Or is it simply the soapbox from which you mock believers?
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