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Atheism the unscientific belief (part one, two, and three)
RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
(October 4, 2015 at 10:03 am)Stimbo Wrote:
(October 4, 2015 at 9:56 am)bambi_swag Wrote: I thought this whole "belief" thing was covered. ONCE and for the LAST time, Atheism is a "disbelief in God" and not a belief. Gnostic Atheism is only "belief". And Gnostic anything is pretty rare.

No, it is lack of belief in theistic claims. "Disbelief in God" entails active rejection of belief in this "God", which although can be embraced by the category, is not central to atheism. Theism says "a god exists"; atheism says "I need justification before I can believe that claim. Got any?"
Sorry I get confused between the two.
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RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
(October 4, 2015 at 4:44 am)Little Rik Wrote: Now i will have to reconsider all my mental thinking.

That will take all of five seconds. What will you do with the rest of your day?
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RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
(October 4, 2015 at 10:21 am)Cato Wrote:
(October 4, 2015 at 4:44 am)Little Rik Wrote: Now i will have to reconsider all my mental thinking.

That will take all of five seconds. What will you do with the rest of your day?

Come up with more ways to incorrectly define things I suspect. 

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RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
(October 4, 2015 at 10:17 am)bambi_swag Wrote: Sorry I get confused between the two.

It's sort of the difference between "Sorry, I didn't have the money to get you a present" and "Sorry, I refuse to spend money to get you a present". Subtle, but crucial.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
(October 4, 2015 at 5:03 am)Little Rik Wrote:
Quote:Sarkar borrowed from traditional Hindu practice and lore.


And your evidence that this is the case is?  Smile

Quote:Doctrines Ananda Marga is a contemporary form of Tantric Yoga based on a synthesis of traditional tantric and yogic practices. It also comprises a programme of social service and social reform, such as schools, orphanages and programmes for the rural poor. It sometimes describes itself as a philosophy, way of life or socio-spiritual organization rather than a religion. Members follow a regime of daily practice of meditation and yoga, with a particular focus on chanting. In addition, there is a system of rules derived from Hindu society regarding conduct, posture, hygiene, food and fasting, service, and sexuality. The aim is progress towards peace and understanding, although force and even violence may be justified under certain circumstances, such as for the purpose of preserving human life and liberty.

History This NRM was founded in 1955 in Bihar, India, by Shrii Anandamurti (b. 1921 with the name of Prabhat Rainjan Sarkar). During the 1970s it spread from India all over the world, including the USA and Western Europe. Its Western membership is strongest in Germany. It is a highly controversial NRM on account of its use and justification of force, and has received allegations of violent terrorism, particularly in India. The organization was banned in India during the 1970s Emergency, when many of its schools were closed down and several members imprisoned. During this period Anandamurti was also imprisoned on charges of conspiracy to murder, though finally acquitted. There were many protests of persecution from the members, some of whom set fire to themselves to make their point more strongly.
The movement has become one of the best known Hindu-based NRMs in the West, with a number of affiliated organizations such as Ananda Marga Pracaraka Samgha, Renaissance Universal (RU), the Ananda Marga Universal Relief Team (AMURT), and a Women's Welfare Department. There are three categories of members: 1) Acharyas, who are full-time, fully committed; 2) Local Full Time Members (LFTs) 3) Margiis, initiated but part-time members with outside jobs. [200]

Symbols Ananda Marga has adopted much traditional Hindu symbolism, particularly for the Didis and Dadas (female and male Acharyas) who wear special, traditional Hindu dress. Chanting is central, and the main chant is BA'BA NA'M KEVALAM, which is intended to focus the mind on Supreme Consciousness. They have a strong focus on purity, emphasized by strict hygiene and dietary practices, including a Vegan diet from which garlic and onions are excluded. Acharyas practise celibacy, and Margiis are restricted to sexual relationships within marriage, although there have been allegations of sexual relationships between Acharyas and other members.

http://www.philtar.ac.uk/encyclopedia/hi...nanda.html
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RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
Quote:Point 16 - Observe C.S.D.K. (Conduct Rules, Seminar, Duty, Kiirtana)

C.S.D.K - Each letter stands for a practice that will help increase one's knowledge of Ananda Marga as well as reinforce their spirituality.

C. Conduct Rules: One should know and follow these rules.

S. Seminar: One must attend seminars and retreats available in the vicinity.

D. Duty: Any duty that is given by one's acarya or another superior should be done happily.

K. Kiirtan with Kaoshikii & Tandava : Kiirtan should be danced everyday. Tandava should also be danced by men twice a day and Kaoshikii by women. Tandava should not be done by woman

Ananda Marga 16 Points

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RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
Ananda Marga are more than just a bunch of prancing Hindu fools. Not much more, mind you, but still...

http://www.start.umd.edu/tops/terrorist_...asp?id=252

Quote:Ananda Marga (The Ananda Marga Yoga Society) is a Hindu-based religious movement that was founded in India in 1955 by Prabhat Rainjan Sarkar. The group practices a contemporary form of Tantric Yoga and dedicates itself to "self-realization and humanity." A component of Ananda Marga was Sarkar's theology of Progressive Utilization Theory (PROUT), which dealt with ending social and economic injustice in the world. This theory led the group to oppose, often violently, traditional schools of Indian thought and the Indian caste system.

Ananda Marga was held responsible for a number of terrorist attacks in the 1970s. The vast majority of these attacks were against Indian diplomatic and business targets abroad, most often in Australia, where the group had large numbers of followers. Some attacks were also claimed in the name of opposing the Soviet Union, and Ananda Marga members were arrested with maps of the U.S. embassy in Thailand. Ananda Marga's involvement in the 1978 bombing outside the Hilton Hotel in Sydney, where Asian and Pacific leaders were holding a Commonwealth Conference, has been disputed.
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
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RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
Yoga can be a very useful discipline of exercise. I get its purpose. But adding woo to it, just don't cut it. Whats next? Boxe plus woo?
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RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
(October 2, 2015 at 5:31 am)robvalue Wrote: How much doo would a Hindu do if a Hindu could do doodoo?

I regret that I had to read through 15 pages before coming across this crushing refutation of all li'l Rik's arguments.
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RE: Atheism. The UNscientific belief (part two)
A Hindu could do doodoo if a Hindu can do doodoo and a Hindu can do doodoo because anyone can do doodoo.
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