Having in-depth knowledge about nonsense is not an accomplishment.

(October 19, 2015 at 12:29 pm)houseofcantor Wrote:

(October 19, 2015 at 12:10 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Argumentum ex culo.

Totally disappointed that that didn't mean "argument by a cunt."  

You can take comfort in the thought that you've seen many arguments by many cunts around here.

(October 19, 2015 at 12:10 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(October 19, 2015 at 11:19 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: [...]So using P for person, you get 1P + 1P + 1P = 3P   Which is what the doctrine of the Trinity states.  It also states that the 3 Persons = 1 God. They are separate and distinct individuals who can interact with each other, which are equally and fully of the same nature and substance of 1 God.

In other words:

1Man + 1Bear + 1Pig = 1Manbearpig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvr2Y61l5T4

And manbearpig must be stopped!

(October 19, 2015 at 12:29 pm)houseofcantor Wrote:

(October 19, 2015 at 12:10 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Argumentum ex culo.

Totally disappointed that that didn't mean "argument by a cunt."  

That would be argumentum per cuni.

Yes, "cunt" is a Latin word.

(October 19, 2015 at 12:06 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(October 18, 2015 at 11:04 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Is your issue that you do not understand the trinity, and that God is three persons in one God.  Or is it, that you do not believe in justice for evil?

No.   My issue is that vicarious redemption and scapegoating (whether voluntary or not) are evil and unjust...

Why?  I would be particularly curious of your answer, if you hold to a  subjective view of evil (morality) and justice, which seems to be prevalent here.

I would note also, that this can be a complex subject, if you want to delve into it.   There are different views on atonement and a number of passages to be taken into consideration.  They are also not all mutually exclusive.  For instance I don't believe that my Greek Orthodox friends are incorrect in promoting Christus Victor theory of atonement, but I don't think it removes the scriptures which talk about penal substitution either.

Just some things to keep in mind.... if you are thinking about this.

Jesus is the one who judges.
As God, Jesus is also the one offended against.
Jesus had to become man, and fulfill the requirements for High Priest, in order to stand for us and offer payment. 
Also my personal belief (although I have not vetted with others yet or seen commentary in this way) is that this is why Christ also needs to be our  Lord and King in order to represent us.
Baptism is presented as us dying and being raised with Christ.   (Romans 6 for instance, although this can be seen throughout the new testament).

And I'm sure there are other things I am missing, but if you are interested in discussing it, I am happy to do so.

(October 18, 2015 at 10:28 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Having just taken the quiz linked above and gotten 100% correct, I challenge Delicate to take the same quiz.

www.csmonitor.com/USA/2011/0105/Are-you-smarter-than-an-atheist-A-religious-quiz/When-does-the-Jewish-Sabbath-begin

I only got 81%.

In my defense, I really, really don't give any fucks about religion.

(October 18, 2015 at 9:14 pm)Delicate Wrote: I suppose any theist who has read this part of the forum has to chuckle at how terrible atheist critiques of theism are.

But when the laughter dies down, you're left with a troubling realization: There actually is a huge pool of people on this planet who call themselves atheists and post on the internet, but are less familiar with theism than toddlers with the inside of a quantum mechanics textbook.

Where does one go for actually informed atheistic critiques of religion? I'm feeling my brain atrophy after reading some of the threads here.

Here is my question. Have you ever spoken to an atheist one on one? Have you ever asked a direct question about the bible or what one knows? My guess is no because if you had this post would not have been made.

Of course there are atheists that have no clue about the bible just like there are Christians that have no clue that wearing mixed fabrics is just as big a SIN as adultry, touching a football, and their wonderful campaign against homsexuality (which is actually a mix up of the Greek translation of words but that is another story).

Your comment would be like me making a negative statement against Christians, which I refuse to do because I want everyone to find a place that brings them peace. The reason atheists are get irritated at Christians is because of statements like yours. Statements made without ever taking the time to get to know us. You want us to accept you but think it is ok to look down on us for no reason

I got one wrong (faith alone).

Delicate: Why are you a shit n' runner?

(October 19, 2015 at 1:20 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I got one wrong (faith alone).

I actually got that one right.

A couple I got wrong because I was rushing through it (like the 10 Commandments one).  One was a term I never heard before, and another was me not knowing anything about Judaism.

Got all the Mormon ones right, though.