I'm using some British terminology here, correctly I hope. As I understand it, "5th Column" is their term in intelligence for infiltration and sabotage. In this case, by this conspiracy theory, Obama is a 5th column for the Republican party, sent to take the White House after Bush and sabotage Democrat efforts to clean up the mess, maybe even demoralize progressives for the next truly progressive candidate.

Normally, I'm not one for conspiracy theories but this would explain a lot.

I don't which has me more disgusted Obama or all the Dem operatives who seem to be all over the internet sites I frequent.

In the best of all worlds it would mean the time was choice for a viable third party candidate but, of course, we already know what will happen. It's very likely that the GOP money machine will deliver Palin up as the GOP candidate. Face it the video footage of her killing and cleaning that moose on her reality show will be used to raise issues of whether or not it's illegal "snuff" footage, along with all the other bullshit Palin dribbles. We know that the media doesn't like her so she's minced meat. Here's the kick in the electorates' cumulative ass, skewed polls will show the election as close so Obama will get the lesser of two evils vote. So Obama will not be going anywhere in 2012 and that's when we'll really know where things are at.

I think he just bought himself the White House in 2012.

And when I think about how I cried when he was announced the winner in November 2008

No, the better explanation is that he's just an idiot who actually believed his own rhetoric about being more bipartisan.

I'm sure Obama isnt' a Republican infiltrative but his administration sure seems to think that 'bipartasainship' with republicans means essentially given them everything they want and asking for gruel and a punch to the face for the trouble. Though this seems to be a recent development since the most recent november election.

He did pass healthcare reform, which the republicans and tea party idiots are going to scramble to uselessly attempt to demolish it in the years to come - just as they have with every positive major social reform. I do agree that the reform didn't go far enough (notably the lack of public option) but when the bill is in full swing, it'll still be a huge improvement that can be built upon later.

There are also others worth noting as well, but the point is that he seems very center-left but this recent move is just a very, very, very bad move isofar as this whole tax cut thing is concerned. I would have liked to just see any attempt to pass it get vetoed but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.

Allah damn it! Why can't we have a legitimately progressive leader? We need someone from the DSA

(December 8, 2010 at 9:04 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote: Allah damn it! Why can't we have a legitimately progressive leader? We need someone from the DSA

Legitimately progressive leaders can't win when true progressive make up only 20% of the population. The independents won't hold their noses that long to vote for them.
Obama has never had to negotiate anything. He doesn't have any experience. His first effort after being elected was to tell Cantor "I won". Not much of a negotiation effort now that Bohner can say to him come January, "We Won". Payback is a bitch.

Cantor looks like the kind of whiny little prick who got beaten up and had his lunch money stolen every day in high school.

Slimey cocksucker.

(December 8, 2010 at 9:14 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Cantor looks like the kind of whiny little prick who got beaten up and had his lunch money stolen every day in high school.

Slimey cocksucker.

And now that he's grown up, he's one of the most powerful members of Congress, kicking the Dem's butt down the road. Payback is a bitch.

(December 8, 2010 at 9:11 pm)Mishka Wrote:

(December 8, 2010 at 9:04 pm)HeyItsZeus Wrote: Allah damn it! Why can't we have a legitimately progressive leader? We need someone from the DSA

Legitimately progressive leaders can't win when true progressive make up only 20% of the population. The independents won't hold their noses that long to vote for them.
Obama has never had to negotiate anything. He doesn't have any experience. His first effort after being elected was to tell Cantor "I won". Not much of a negotiation effort now that Bohner can say to him come January, "We Won". Payback is a bitch.

He has more experience than Palin

(December 8, 2010 at 9:23 pm)Mishka Wrote: And now that he's grown up, he's one of the most powerful members of Congress, kicking the Dem's butt down the road. Payback is a bitch.

Hah. Please. The republicans couldn't manage more than winning the House, but even when the winds were blowing in their favor, they still couldn't win the senate thanks to all the tea party crazy and general republican blantant 'we're in it for rich people and screw everyone else' stances on all issues.