(October 21, 2015 at 9:27 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:

(October 21, 2015 at 6:03 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You telling me that they don't know how to make heat-resistant alloys in the SW universe?

Pfft.

Oh hell. Luke tossed his dad on a bon-fire. The Ewoks weren't exactly tech savvy.

I have a question.  When Jedi becomes one with the force and become a spooky glowing apparition, does that happen just before death, at the moment of death, or some considerable time after death?

It seem to me Vader had to have died for some time before Luke can haul the body down to Ewokland, build a pyre, and consign the lord of sith to flames.   The glowy apparition with a smug knowing smile didn't appear until the corpse is well past medium rare.   What was anakin's living force doing during that time?

Sorry, had to ask.

Well, he was sealed up in that suit for a long time. He probably had some personal business to take care of before manifesting. A shower at the very least.

I imagine he had to learn how to do it from Yoda and Obi Wan.

There was that one line shoehorned into Revenge Of The Shit Sith, when Yoda told Ewan Kenobi that Liam Neeson's ghost had been talking to him. For a General, that's pretty disconcerting, but it sort of sets up the whole "If you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine" thing. How Darth Hayden picked it up, I have no idea.

Darth Hayden must have imagined it pretty satisfactorily to be able to ape the feat himself just 2 installments later.

(October 21, 2015 at 10:19 pm)Chuck Wrote:

(October 21, 2015 at 9:27 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: Oh hell. Luke tossed his dad on a bon-fire. The Ewoks weren't exactly tech savvy.

I have a question.  When Jedi becomes one with the force and become a spooky glowing apparition, does that happen just before death, at the moment of death, or some considerable time after death?

It seem to me Vader had to have died for some time before Luke can haul the body down to Ewokland, build a pyre, and consign the lord of sith to flames.   The glowy apparition with a smug knowing smile didn't appear until the corpse is well past medium rare.   What was anakin's living force doing during that time?

Sorry, had to ask.

What I've always wondered about the revised edition of ROTJ is why Obi Wan is an old man, Yoda is ancient, yet Anakin shows up represented in the prime of life. WTF Lucas?!?

They dealt with it fairly well in the Clone Wars, at least how Yoda learned.

(October 21, 2015 at 11:30 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:

(October 21, 2015 at 10:19 pm)Chuck Wrote: I have a question.  When Jedi becomes one with the force and become a spooky glowing apparition, does that happen just before death, at the moment of death, or some considerable time after death?

It seem to me Vader had to have died for some time before Luke can haul the body down to Ewokland, build a pyre, and consign the lord of sith to flames.   The glowy apparition with a smug knowing smile didn't appear until the corpse is well past medium rare.   What was anakin's living force doing during that time?

Sorry, had to ask.

What I've always wondered about the revised edition of ROTJ is why Obi Wan is an old man, Yoda is ancient, yet Anakin shows up represented in the prime of life. WTF Lucas?!?

To be fair, Vader would only have been like....40 or 45 or something when he died.  At most.  So I think their blue glowie ages fit.  He was like...20-ish when he knocked up Princess Natalie Portman? Luke is only about 20 or so by the time the original trilogy concludes.

As to how the hell one learns to be a blue glowie in the first place, I have to agree with others that it was not adequately explained in the movies.  I love the original Trilogy, but there are some (gaping) plot holes.  It's a space opera, with what amounts to magic, muppet aliens, and some very cheesy dialog, so it's one of those things you just gotta get over, IMO.  

It's like bitching that Klingons now have ridges on their foreheads, when they did not in TOS.  It's a sci-fi spanning decades, written and acted in by numerous different people with different ideas, some of them outlandishly bad but now part of cannon.  You just gotta go with the flow, or tell it all to fuck off.  I'm a go with the flow kind of person (although Revenge of the Sith almost made me hate Star Wars).

Hell, at least we are getting to see this universe.  Robert Jordan's WoT only got a shitty, poorly made pilot, aired at 1:30 in the morning so a company could keep holding the IP and doing nothing with it.  It deserves better.

Um...sorry, kind of ranted on there.

(October 21, 2015 at 10:19 pm)Chuck Wrote:

(October 21, 2015 at 9:27 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: Oh hell. Luke tossed his dad on a bon-fire. The Ewoks weren't exactly tech savvy.

I have a question.  When Jedi becomes one with the force and become a spooky glowing apparition, does that happen just before death, at the moment of death, or some considerable time after death?

It seem to me Vader had to have died for some time before Luke can haul the body down to Ewokland, build a pyre, and consign the lord of sith to flames.   The glowy apparition with a smug knowing smile didn't appear until the corpse is well past medium rare.   What was anakin's living force doing during that time?

Sorry, had to ask.

I'm gonna go with "roasting".

(October 21, 2015 at 1:18 pm)Exian Wrote: So, am I ridiculous for fearing going to the movies now? Especially the high profile flicks like Star Wars. I skipped taking my daughter to Jurassic World for this reason, since a shooting occurred recently before or during its release.

It was wise from a cinematic perspective as well, Colin Trevorrow was completely out of his depth writing a screenplay of this scope. Jesus Lord, can it be that hard to produce somewhat consistent and minimally likable characters and a story line that makes a bit of sense and without completely pointless elements? Some of it was pure B movie shlock.