(October 30, 2015 at 11:07 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:

(October 30, 2015 at 11:04 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: you should probabally avoid me in the future then so i dont drain any more of your precious reserves

How I wish I could. Alas, I am green.

Your utter ignorance of the things you talk with authority about combined with your utter disrespect for the English language will plague me until you give up. Or learn what the shift key does. Or that little dot next to it.

well if you see me commenting in a thread all you have to do is go to another thread where im not commenting its easy you can do it 

(October 30, 2015 at 11:12 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: well if you see me commenting in a thread all you have to do is go to another thread where im not commenting its easy you can do it 

Ah. You see, it's my job to keep an eye on the goings on in this forum. I especially have to keep an eye on the hyperactive threads, like this one which has over 500 posts in two days.

So, no, despite you yet again talking about something which you have absolutely no fucking clue about, I cannot simply do as you suggest.

(October 30, 2015 at 11:12 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Some things that should be kept in mind before continuing to argue your point, Jenny:

It is possible does not equal it is likely.

Not knowing everything does not mean you know nothing.

Just because the universal constants have a setting does not mean someone had to set them.

Magic is not an acceptable answer unless you have some good, solid evidence of that magic.

there is no solid evidence for or against intelligent design or God , some people believe and some people dont believe not everyone has to think the same way right ? i do believe in God and a lot of people who believe in God believe either in creation or intelligent design of evolution

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(October 30, 2015 at 11:16 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:

(October 30, 2015 at 11:12 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: well if you see me commenting in a thread all you have to do is go to another thread where im not commenting its easy you can do it 

Ah. You see, it's my job to keep an eye on the goings on in this forum. I especially have to keep an eye on the hyperactive threads, like this one which has over 500 posts in two days.

So, no, despite you yet again talking about something which you have absolutely no fucking clue about, I cannot simply do as you suggest.

well i guess your reserves will have to continue to dwindle then sorry about that you have my sympathies

(October 30, 2015 at 11:24 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:

(October 30, 2015 at 11:12 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Some things that should be kept in mind before continuing to argue your point, Jenny:

It is possible does not equal it is likely.

Not knowing everything does not mean you know nothing.

Just because the universal constants have a setting does not mean someone had to set them.

Magic is not an acceptable answer unless you have some good, solid evidence of that magic.

there is no solid evidence for or against intelligent design or God , some people believe and some people dont believe not everyone has to think the same way right ? i do believe in God and a lot of people who believe in God believe either in creation or intelligent design of evolution

Jenny, a previous question from me you haven't responded to yet:

What created God with all his omniscience and omnipotence?

(October 30, 2015 at 10:59 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: jenny has drained a little of my precious reserves of faith in humanity.

Don't worry there's more to humanity than her ignorance of scientific matters or any matter of education. She can still be a nice person that's the main thing.

I could never lose faith in someone for their ignorance, I know far too many ignorant people who are still lovely human beings.

I'm pretty ignorant too of most things... mainly because I'm lazy... although I try not to be.

I understand natural selection and the basics... I understand enough to know evolution makes massive sense. I was taught the basics as a  child and Dawkins taught me most of the other parts pretty much

Main thing is she's not forcing her beliefs on others and her theistic beliefs seem pretty harmless.

(October 30, 2015 at 11:27 pm)Evie Wrote:

(October 30, 2015 at 10:59 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: jenny has drained a little of my precious reserves of faith in humanity.

Don't worry there's more to humanity than her ignorance of scientific matters or any matter of education. She can still be a nice person that's the main thing.

I could never lose faith in someone for their ignorance, I know far too many ignorant people who are still lovely human beings.

I'm pretty ignorant too of most things... mainly because I'm lazy... although I try not to be.

I understand natural selection and the basics... I understand enough to know evolution makes massive sense. I was taught the basics as a  child and Dawkins taught me most of the other parts pretty much

Main thing is she's not forcing her beliefs on others and her theistic beliefs seem pretty harmless.

To be clear---I will never fault someone for being ignorant. There are many topics I am ignorant about.

One thing you'll never catch me doing, however, is proudly remaining willfully ignorant.

For that, a person can earn my deepest disdain.

(October 30, 2015 at 1:23 pm)Quantum Wrote:

(October 30, 2015 at 1:03 pm)pool Wrote: That's dope as fuck
I wonder how those particles knew how to "This is how particles interact with each other, period." They certainly wouldn't have gone like "POOF! NOW I KNOW HOW TO INTERACT WITH OTHER PARTICLES"

Nobody knows. So far we assume that these laws were more or less there in some form. Whether one can say that they "came from" anywhere in a sensible fashion is debatable. There are scientific hypotheses such as the String Landscape, in which the actual properties of particles and the types of forces are randomly chosen due to quantum fluctuations after the universe cools down.

I'm going to give "String Landscape" a read. If it's good enough for me, I'll drop my Creatards might be right moment else I'll stick to it.
Thanks for giving it out though!
As for the others that are still arguing about this, read the bolded part of K's

And for the nth time, I'm sorry for using "explosion" in the place of rapid expansion of a singularity and cooling down of it. Yes, explosion does sound dope don't you dare say otherwise.Aaaaaaaaaaaand I'm not going to say this again for the people that come here -> read one post and then act like they read the whole thread

(October 30, 2015 at 11:25 pm)Irrational Wrote:

(October 30, 2015 at 11:24 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: there is no solid evidence for or against intelligent design or God , some people believe and some people dont believe not everyone has to think the same way right ? i do believe in God and a lot of people who believe in God believe either in creation or intelligent design of evolution

Jenny, a previous question from me you haven't responded to yet:

What created God with all his omniscience and omnipotence?

i dont know what created God but not knowing doesnt affect my belief in God . just like not knowing everything about Space doesnt affect your belief that Space exists right ?

(October 30, 2015 at 11:24 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: there is no solid evidence for or against intelligent design or God , some people believe and some people dont believe not everyone has to think the same way right ? i do believe in God and a lot of people who believe in God believe either in creation or intelligent design of evolution

There is no evidence for, despite the people in the ID movement constantly making (incorrect) suggestions about what sort of complexity we should expect to prove that evolution could not happen by natural means. They have been busted on every one they suggest, so far, and in the end every one of their suggestions was just an argument from ignorance: "We don't know how this particular chemical pathway in the body evolved, so Irreducibly Complex!!" Except then we'd find out how, exactly, that system evolved. They'd just move on to the next gap in knowledge, as if nothing had happened. In short, ID is bankrupt as an idea in the science world. If you had actually read that case I linked you to, Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District, you'd already know exactly why. Those people make a lot of noise, but their claims fall apart under scrutiny.

But you didn't read it. You just waved it away like it was nothing. A monumental proof that ID is an invalid idea, and admitted by its top advocate, and on the record under oath. You just didn't even want to look at it, even though you asked for that information, thinking we couldn't provide it. You essentially refused to educate yourself about something you choose to declare publicly. Why? I'm seriously asking, why would you do that? Don't worry, it's rhetorical; I want you to ask and answer it, honestly, to yourself.

Intelligent Design is not required for there to be a God. If God created the laws of physics, deliberately, in such a way that evolution can happen naturally, then evolution is the process of creation, and we just cannot detect God in the process because God made it so that Divine Intervention is unnecessary to the process of creation. That is why I literally know probably a hundred biologists who are Christians. Outright Christians... but every single one of them has the exact same ideas about evolution that I do. 

It makes God smaller, much smaller, when you suggest that the only way life could be here is for God to have meddled in the DNA in order to produce biodiversity. What a tiny creator! Made the universe... waited NINE BILLION YEARS for the sun to form, and then the earth... and said, at that point, "You know what? I'm going to play with the organic chemistry on that world, over there on the back edge of that one spiral arm of that one galaxy, the third one away from that boring yellow dwarf star, and instead of letting the universe go on as I originally designed it to be, I think I'll meddle in the puddle and make life on that one world. Yessir, it turns out my original plan wasn't good enough after all. I'll keep slowly meddling in the DNA for another 4 1/2 billion years until I finally get the bipedal intelligent apes who'll pray to me."