(December 1, 2015 at 9:17 pm)Mermaid Wrote:

(December 1, 2015 at 9:16 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Haha, no worries. Not your fault at all. I find it amusing actually lol.

I don't know how you do it, CL. I would not be strong enough to post in a religion forum without getting angry and frustrated.

She secretly knows we will all get our comeuppance when we die. She knows she will be proven right in the end, and this is one way she deals with her frustration, by privately gloating about this. I am not making this up or being mean, I happen to know for a fact that she is much nicer to our faces than behind our backs.

But she is only human, just like the rest of us, so I don't hold it against her. Most people can't even be nice to our faces, lol.

Whateverist the White, my knight in shinning armor.    

Whateverist the White

(December 1, 2015 at 9:36 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: Sorry if you take offense.

I'm new to this forum, but don't think that makes me new to atheist discussion groups (got tired of the woo-based political factions and poor format for interaction over on Patheos.com). After years of watching such discussions as this one, I really find Catholic Lady's apologetics as tiresome as they are insulting, and I just can't be cool about this particular issue when so many people are being harmed by her ideas. I can't be cool about this because those who suffer under her whims aren't somebody else's future, they are MY future! Maybe you live in a different country than the US, if so you couldn't possibly understand.

Oh, stuff it.  All you've done is disparage what CL said without offering one concrete objection.  Whether or not people are being harmed by her ideas is irrelevant.  From her point of view the same is true in reverse. 

(December 1, 2015 at 9:36 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: The sort of person who argues like Catholic Lady  is never going to shift her position, and will always keep up her damaging campaign to con hapless, uneducated people out of their rights to medical autonomy and freedom from religious harassment. If you think you aren't wasting your time entertaining her, then you haven't been around the atheist scene long enough.

What a weak, pompous ass you are.  You do not speak for atheists generally.  If you have a complaint you'd like to make against what CL has said at least have the cajones to address her directly.

Most of us know her well enough to know she is speaking with candor from her values, not all of which we share.  But you make few friends here with this kind of indirect character assassination of a person who is a well respected member of our community.  Civility will take you further.  It certainly has her.

(December 1, 2015 at 9:36 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: Because most people don't think the way we do, and are much more willing to be agreeable than to deconstruct her sort of bullshit, I reacted out of grave concern that more young minds are being raped by her now. What would you do if you witnessed a rape? Would you look the other way, or would you try and intervene?

Please do not presume to speak for atheists generally.  Not all of us are anti-abortion.  In short, bugger off.
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Your reading comprehension really sucks ass - I won't even bother responding to your pitiful attacks because anything I say would sail right over your head.

(December 1, 2015 at 10:47 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: Your reading comprehension really sucks ass - I won't even bother responding to your pitiful attacks because anything I say would sail right over your head.

Or maybe you're just not very good at putting your thoughts into words? I don't see where he read anything wrong.

(December 1, 2015 at 10:41 pm)Aroura Wrote:

(December 1, 2015 at 9:17 pm)Mermaid Wrote: I don't know how you do it, CL. I would not be strong enough to post in a religion forum without getting angry and frustrated.

She secretly knows we will all get our comeuppance when we die. She knows she will be proven right in the end, and this is one way she deals with her frustration, by privately gloating about this. I am not making this up or being mean, I happen to know for a fact that she is much nicer to our faces than behind our backs.

But she is only human, just like the rest of us, so I don't hold it against her. Most people can't even be nice to our faces, lol.

There's no point in trying to be nice anymore, while children are irreparably damaged at the hands of religious people, my coiuntry is sliding at a steepening angle toward outright theocracy. If you don't understand this, then maybe you've had the privelige of being raised non-religious.

I do find it beyond disturbing that the general well-being (health, self-esteem, self-understanding through sound education) of innocent children are being treated as less important by apparently senior members of this forum than your misguided emphasis on putting on a nice face for people who have never, ever played nice, have never, ever played clean, and who never, ever will do either while they are in power.

(December 1, 2015 at 10:59 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:

(December 1, 2015 at 10:41 pm)Aroura Wrote: She secretly knows we will all get our comeuppance when we die. She knows she will be proven right in the end, and this is one way she deals with her frustration, by privately gloating about this. I am not making this up or being mean, I happen to know for a fact that she is much nicer to our faces than behind our backs.

But she is only human, just like the rest of us, so I don't hold it against her. Most people can't even be nice to our faces, lol.

There's no point in pretending to be nice anymore, while children are irreparably damaged at the hands of religious people, my coiuntry is sliding at a steepening angle toward outright theocracy. If you don't understand this, then maybe you've had the privelige of being raised non-religious.

I do find it beyond disturbing that the general well-being (health, self-esteem, self-understanding through sound education) of innocent children are being treated as less important by apparently senior members of this forum than your misguided emphasis on putting on a nice face for people who have never, ever played nice, have never, ever played clean, and who never, ever will do either while they are in power.

I am an ex-catholic, and have my own damage to deal with. And I am American and very aware of current politics. That does not mean we should treat other people of differing views without decency. I should not even have said what I did. It was petty, and in the heat of a disagreement.

How can we ever expect civility if we cannot, ourselves, show it?

(December 1, 2015 at 10:59 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:

(December 1, 2015 at 10:41 pm)Aroura Wrote: She secretly knows we will all get our comeuppance when we die. She knows she will be proven right in the end, and this is one way she deals with her frustration, by privately gloating about this. I am not making this up or being mean, I happen to know for a fact that she is much nicer to our faces than behind our backs.

But she is only human, just like the rest of us, so I don't hold it against her. Most people can't even be nice to our faces, lol.

There's no point in trying to be nice anymore, while children are irreparably damaged at the hands of religious people, my coiuntry is sliding at a steepening angle toward outright theocracy. If you don't understand this, then maybe you've had the privelige of being raised non-religious.

I do find it beyond disturbing that the general well-being (health, self-esteem, self-understanding through sound education) of innocent children are being treated as less important by apparently senior members of this forum than your misguided emphasis on putting on a nice face for people who have never, ever played nice, have never, ever played clean, and who never, ever will do either while they are in power.

I've got one thing to say to this:

(December 1, 2015 at 10:47 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: Whateverist the White

(December 1, 2015 at 9:36 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: Sorry if you take offense.

I'm new to this forum, but don't think that makes me new to atheist discussion groups (got tired of the woo-based political factions and poor format for interaction over on Patheos.com). After years of watching such discussions as this one, I really find Catholic Lady's apologetics as tiresome as they are insulting, and I just can't be cool about this particular issue when so many people are being harmed by her ideas. I can't be cool about this because those who suffer under her whims aren't somebody else's future, they are MY future! Maybe you live in a different country than the US, if so you couldn't possibly understand.

Oh, stuff it.  All you've done is disparage what CL said without offering one concrete objection.  Whether or not people are being harmed by her ideas is irrelevant.  From her point of view the same is true in reverse. 

(December 1, 2015 at 9:36 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: The sort of person who argues like Catholic Lady  is never going to shift her position, and will always keep up her damaging campaign to con hapless, uneducated people out of their rights to medical autonomy and freedom from religious harassment. If you think you aren't wasting your time entertaining her, then you haven't been around the atheist scene long enough.

What a weak, pompous ass you are.  You do not speak for atheists generally.  If you have a complaint you'd like to make against what CL has said at least have the cajones to address her directly.

Most of us know her well enough to know she is speaking with candor from her values, not all of which we share.  But you make few friends here with this kind of indirect character assassination of a person who is a well respected member of our community.  Civility will take you further.  It certainly has her.

(December 1, 2015 at 9:36 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: Because most people don't think the way we do, and are much more willing to be agreeable than to deconstruct her sort of bullshit, I reacted out of grave concern that more young minds are being raped by her now. What would you do if you witnessed a rape? Would you look the other way, or would you try and intervene?

Please do not presume to speak for atheists generally.  Not all of us are anti-abortion.  In short, bugger off.

Your reading comprehension really sucks ass - I won't even bother responding to your pitiful attacks because anything I say would sail right over your head.
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"Bugger off" - now there's a really cute Britishism!

You on the other side of the pond have that luxury of playing nice, while its the schools in my country which continue to church out low self-esteem and half-educated people who will  be running banks, hospitals, and governments in MY country - so don't YOU criticize my manners with the people who perpetuate this fairy-tale disease of the human mind which people like Catholic Lady promote!

(December 1, 2015 at 11:15 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:

(December 1, 2015 at 10:47 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: Whateverist the White

Oh, stuff it.  All you've done is disparage what CL said without offering one concrete objection.  Whether or not people are being harmed by her ideas is irrelevant.  From her point of view the same is true in reverse. 



What a weak, pompous ass you are.  You do not speak for atheists generally.  If you have a complaint you'd like to make against what CL has said at least have the cajones to address her directly.

Most of us know her well enough to know she is speaking with candor from her values, not all of which we share.  But you make few friends here with this kind of indirect character assassination of a person who is a well respected member of our community.  Civility will take you further.  It certainly has her.



Please do not presume to speak for atheists generally.  Not all of us are anti-abortion.  In short, bugger off.

Your reading comprehension really sucks ass - I won't even bother responding to your pitiful attacks because anything I say would sail right over your head.


"Bugger off" - now there's a really cute Britishism!

You on the other side of the pond have that luxury of playing nice, while its the schools in my country which continue to church out low self-esteem and half-educated people who will  be running banks, hospitals, and governments in MY country - so don't YOU criticize my manners with the people who perpetuate this fairy-tale disease of the human mind which people like Catholic Lady promote!

He's American not British, silly willy.

Whateverist the White
  In short, bugger off.
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"Bugger off" - now there's a really cute Britishism!

You on the other side of the pond have that luxury of playing nice, while it's the schools in my country which continue to churn out low self-esteem and half-educated people who will  be running banks, hospitals, and governments in MY country - so don't YOU criticize my manners with the people who perpetuate this fairy-tale disease of the human mind which people like Catholic Lady promotes!

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(December 1, 2015 at 11:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(December 1, 2015 at 11:15 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: Your reading comprehension really sucks ass - I won't even bother responding to your pitiful attacks because anything I say would sail right over your head.

"Bugger off" - now there's a really cute Britishism!

You on the other side of the pond have that luxury of playing nice, while its the schools in my country which continue to church out low self-esteem and half-educated people who will  be running banks, hospitals, and governments in MY country - so don't YOU criticize my manners with the people who perpetuate this fairy-tale disease of the human mind which people like Catholic Lady promote!

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He's American not British, silly willy.
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Whatever, he's at least as out of touch with reality as you are, and that's pretty frightful.