Posts: 869
Threads: 143
Joined: September 11, 2015
Reputation:
11
Study: Terrorists are motivated by Politics more than Religion
December 13, 2015 at 6:25 pm
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politic...is-motives
Quote:What 95 percent of all suicide attacks have in common, since 1980, is not religion, but a specific strategic motivation to respond to a military intervention, often specifically a military occupation, of territory that the terrorists view as their homeland or prize greatly. From Lebanon and the West Bank in the 80s and 90s, to Iraq and Afghanistan, and up through the Paris suicide attacks we’ve just experienced in the last days, military intervention—and specifically when the military intervention is occupying territory—that’s what prompts suicide terrorism more than anything else.
Which is better:
To die with ignorance, or to live with intelligence?
Truth doesn't accommodate to personal opinions.
The choice is yours.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
There is God and there is man, it's only a matter of who created whom
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The more questions you ask, the more you realize that disagreement is inevitable, and communication of this disagreement, irrelevant.
Posts: 5492
Threads: 53
Joined: September 4, 2014
Reputation:
55
RE: Study: Terrorists are motivated by Politics more than Religion
December 13, 2015 at 6:59 pm
But then that's the fundamental difference between Islam and western religions; their religion and their politics are one in the same. And when radicalized, there is hardly a difference between the two.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."
For context, this is the previous verse:
"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
Posts: 13122
Threads: 130
Joined: October 18, 2014
Reputation:
55
RE: Study: Terrorists are motivated by Politics more than Religion
December 13, 2015 at 7:04 pm
(This post was last modified: December 13, 2015 at 7:04 pm by abaris.)
I'm old enough to have witnessed Palestinian terror switch from leftist/nationalist to radical religious. It started to happen in 1987 with the first Intifada. Of course, it has some kind of political motivations. The only question that noone asks is, what are the superiors thinking? Are they using Djihad and religion merely as a tool or are they believing what their propaganda is about.
There's that old saying of Know thy enemy. You can shorten it to brains before brawns. This is what's sorely missing when combatting terrorism.
Posts: 19789
Threads: 57
Joined: September 24, 2010
Reputation:
85
RE: Study: Terrorists are motivated by Politics more than Religion
December 13, 2015 at 7:16 pm
(December 13, 2015 at 6:59 pm)Exian Wrote: But then that's the fundamental difference between Islam and western religions; their religion and their politics are one in the same. And when radicalized, there is hardly a difference between the two.
Not really. The political condition facing People of Islamic countries of the near east, both the chronic ones that have persisted since around 1948, and periodically accute ones, created a moral exhaustion and disillusionment with the potential for secular forces to address the problems, that allowed religion to appear to offer a deceptively easier, clearer and less ambigious solution.
The most effective and proactive means of addressing these problems between 1948 and around 1980 had been mostly secular throughout most of middleeast.
Posts: 67288
Threads: 140
Joined: June 28, 2011
Reputation:
162
RE: Study: Terrorists are motivated by Politics more than Religion
December 13, 2015 at 7:17 pm
Long been known. The organiziers of a suicide attack rarely carry the bombs. They have a political aim, a longer term plan. They go get the devout ones to do the deed.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Posts: 13051
Threads: 66
Joined: February 7, 2011
Reputation:
92
RE: Study: Terrorists are motivated by Politics more than Religion
December 13, 2015 at 8:35 pm
This seems like common sense, no?
Posts: 5436
Threads: 138
Joined: September 6, 2012
Reputation:
58
RE: Study: Terrorists are motivated by Politics more than Religion
December 13, 2015 at 9:04 pm
Suicide terrorism isn't the same thing as terrorism. I'd imagine that the study examines suicide terrorism in particular because they are trying to make this point to start with and set the parameters to include the Tamil Tigers. I don't think that a knowledgeable political science professor chose that 1980 date by coincidence, nor limited the study to 'suicide attacks' by coincidence. These are the results he wanted to get from the start and manipulated his parameters to get them. Which makes them pretty worthless, if you ask me.
Posts: 69247
Threads: 3759
Joined: August 2, 2009
Reputation:
259
RE: Study: Terrorists are motivated by Politics more than Religion
December 13, 2015 at 9:08 pm
Quote:The only question that noone asks is, what are the superiors thinking?
Something along the lines of "you go blow yourself up....I've have more important work to do."
Posts: 28417
Threads: 524
Joined: June 16, 2015
Reputation:
90
RE: Study: Terrorists are motivated by Politics more than Religion
December 13, 2015 at 9:35 pm
Other than religion or politics have you considered other motives. If you discount monetary and materialism, especially by those running the show, you may be fooling yourselves.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
Posts: 7677
Threads: 635
Joined: January 19, 2013
Reputation:
30
RE: Study: Terrorists are motivated by Politics more than Religion
December 13, 2015 at 10:03 pm
(This post was last modified: December 13, 2015 at 10:05 pm by WinterHold.)
Ever though about the term "easy way out" ?
A lost of westerners don't even know the hell most Middle Eastern people live in, since the 40s. You guessed that right : since Sykes-Picot agreement.
The regular Middle Eastern is treated like an animal; a cow, only used to bring income to some warlords.
The local warlords get their arms from the west.
So typically, lots of people grow a severe complex of hate towards both the warlords, and of course : their supporters who happen to be westerners.
In moments of anger, there is no difference between a French and a British : they all "look western; they all look like the supporters of the Arab warlords".
Never wondered, why China & Japan are so faraway from the Muslim terrorism? they support nobody in the region, that's why less people hate them.
Religion is only a background song, that adds romanticism to the blow.
Since immigration is so hard, and promises of a better life are so rare, some people decide to blow themselves up taking with them the warlords & their supporters from the west.
It's an easy equation.
|