(December 17, 2015 at 6:06 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(December 17, 2015 at 5:59 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No, not at all. We just don't think you or most laypeople understand the biological actions during an act of rape and molestation which is why you were "surprised" that it could happen to men. We just told you and now you know. So again, instead of fighting us trying to claim we put words in your head when all we did was state reality, accept it and learn. Nobody is accusing you of anything.

I don't think you understand. I was "surprised" men could get erections during rape to the point where they could be raped vaginally. 

My cousin, who is a guy, was raped by a male neighbor when he was 11. And I'm not a "moron" as you called it. I know what rape/molestation is and what it entails. I just didn't realize it was possible for men to get erections during it. 

I was just surprised arousal could happen. That's all I was surprised about lol.

EDIT TO ADD: I also don't get why being a lay person should have anything to do with whether or not a person understands what rape is.

Now you do know, but as surprised as you say you are it makes me sad more people are not taught this. Now you do know. So learn from it.

(December 17, 2015 at 6:14 pm)Losty Wrote: Seems like you two are just arguing for the sake of argument when neither appears to actually disagree with the other...

Losty, it's really strange. I don't disagree with what anyone here is saying about rape lol. 

The issue is that I'm being accused of not understanding what rape is, and of saying that it's not rape if the victim is aroused. Which is really weird because I never said that, and in fact said the exact opposite.

I didn't read the whole thing but I've seen two posts by two people saying they're not accusing you of saying that. So I still think it looks like both sides arguing for no reason.

(December 17, 2015 at 6:16 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(December 17, 2015 at 6:06 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't think you understand. I was "surprised" men could get erections during rape to the point where they could be raped vaginally. 

My cousin, who is a guy, was raped by a male neighbor when he was 11. And I'm not a "moron" as you called it. I know what rape/molestation is and what it entails. I just didn't realize it was possible for men to get erections during it. 

I was just surprised arousal could happen. That's all I was surprised about lol.

EDIT TO ADD: I also don't get why being a lay person should have anything to do with whether or not a person understands what rape is.

Now you do know, but as surprised as you say you are it makes me sad more people are not taught this. Now you do know. So learn from it.

Actually I knew yesterday when Stimbo told me. That's why I had to tell like 3 people "I have been made aware" lol. Yet you kept rambling on for some reason.

(December 17, 2015 at 6:18 pm)Losty Wrote: I didn't read the whole thing but I've seen two posts by two people saying they're not accusing you of saying that. So I still think it looks like both sides arguing for no reason.

 Well just so you don't think I'm going nuts, here is where they both make accusations:

(December 17, 2015 at 5:49 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: No, CL, I don't think you downplayed rape, I just thought you should know clearly that arousal is not consent, and how one should go about it if they ever decide to do anything kinky. 

(December 17, 2015 at 9:19 am)Brian37 Wrote: Some morons think rape is strictly about a man getting a boner and enjoying the vaginal penetration. 

The "moron" he is referring to is me, btw.  
So, as you can see, I'm being accused of thinking arousal = consent, and of thinking rape is only a vaginal penetration of male on female.

I don't see any accusations in those quotes. Sigh. I just don't understand the back and forth but it's cool you guys have fun with that.

Rape is so religious because women who refuse sex might be depriving a baby of life. Murderers!

(December 17, 2015 at 6:39 pm)Losty Wrote: I don't see any accusations in those quotes. Sigh. I just don't understand the back and forth but it's cool you guys have fun with that.

Hmm you'd have to read the last 7 pages to understand it then, I guess. I tried explaining it to you, but I suppose it's one of those things you gotta look at.

For my own part, I'm good to end this so long as Brian and Hanky don't think that I...

1. Don't believe rape is rape if the victim becomes aroused

and

2. Don't believe an act is rape unless it's male on female vaginal penetration.

.... Basically this whole thing has been me trying to tell them that I don't think these things lol. 

Seems petty, but I don't want people to spread around stuff about me that isn't true, especially concerning a touchy subject like rape.

Anyway, enough of this back-and-forth. Do you have a nun's habit or not? I need to know because I don't want to waste money on the crotchless bishop's outfit if you don't.

(December 17, 2015 at 6:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(December 17, 2015 at 6:18 pm)Losty Wrote: I didn't read the whole thing but I've seen two posts by two people saying they're not accusing you of saying that. So I still think it looks like both sides arguing for no reason.

 Well just so you don't think I'm going nuts, here is where they both make accusations:

(December 17, 2015 at 5:49 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote: No, CL, I don't think you downplayed rape, I just thought you should know clearly that arousal is not consent, and how one should go about it if they ever decide to do anything kinky. 

(December 17, 2015 at 9:19 am)Brian37 Wrote: Some morons think rape is strictly about a man getting a boner and enjoying the vaginal penetration. 

The "moron" he is referring to is me, btw.  
So, as you can see, I'm being accused of thinking arousal = consent, and of thinking rape is only a vaginal penetration of male on female.

No you said you didn't now that men could get aroused did you not? And even after you admitted you didn't know that you continue to accuse us of putting words in your mouth. I said SOME, is your name "some"?

This is not the first thread a believer has started asking us if we do horrible violent things to others. You didn't start it did you? But you did admit to a deficit in your knowledge. "Moron" was referring to the OP, those who cling to bad logic and bad data even after they are corrected. So you admitted your flaw and your deficit so no, you are not the "some" I was referring to.