That's the irony, isn't it? Fighting for getting stolen land to steal it yourself and call it your own.

I have one question.

If these people were black, would you still want them to freeze to death, be gunned down by government tanks and so on, and be making threads about the subject?

Also just something else I'd like to point out, I don't know why the government isn't doing much so far about these protesters, maybe they have something planned, but I can't logically put it down to race as to why the government hasn't acted already.

White people have been killed in protests, or in situations like Waco, so as far as I can tell the government isn't holding back from shooting these people to death purely because they're white.

(January 6, 2016 at 10:04 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I have one question.

If these people were black, would you still want them to freeze to death, be gunned down by government tanks and so on, and be making threads about the subject?

No, it would happen, regardless if we wish it or not. It's usual procedure in such situations. As can be shown by looking up Wacko (as I like to call it) in 1993.

(January 6, 2016 at 10:08 pm)abaris Wrote:

(January 6, 2016 at 10:04 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I have one question.

If these people were black, would you still want them to freeze to death, be gunned down by government tanks and so on, and be making threads about the subject?

No, it would happen, regardless if we wish it or not. It's usual procedure in such situations. As can be shown by looking up Wacko (as I like to call it) in 1993.

So then you also don't want the government to shoot these ranchers?

Quote: If these people were black, would you still want them to freeze to death, be gunned down by government tanks and so on, and be making threads about the subject?

You're not paying attention.  If they were black they would already be surrounded by every SWAT team in reach.



And as for this...

Quote:So then you also don't want the government to shoot these ranchers?

Now they are "ranchers?"  They are armed insurrectionists.

Quote:In a video posted to Facebook, he declares: "We have basically taken over the Malheur Wildlife Refuge. And this will become a base place for patriots from all over the country to come and be housed here and to live here. And we're planning on staying here for several years." Calling his group "the point of the spear," Ammon Bundy called on like-minded militants to "bring your arms."[b] [/b]


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I am a little uncomfortable with the idea of armed rebels threatening violence and being allowed to get away with it.  There are a lot of these groups.  How many more times are we to be subjected to the whims of a bunch of crazies with guns?  BTW, these people are mormon fuckwits.

(January 6, 2016 at 10:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote: If these people were black, would you still want them to freeze to death, be gunned down by government tanks and so on, and be making threads about the subject?

You're not paying attention.  If they were black they would already be surrounded by every SWAT team in reach.



And as for this...

Quote:So then you also don't want the government to shoot these ranchers?

Now they are "ranchers?"  They are armed insurrectionists.

Quote:In a video posted to Facebook, he declares: "We have basically taken over the Malheur Wildlife Refuge. And this will become a base place for patriots from all over the country to come and be housed here and to live here. And we're planning on staying here for several years." Calling his group "the point of the spear," Ammon Bundy called on like-minded militants to "bring your arms."[b] [/b]


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I am a little uncomfortable with the idea of armed rebels threatening violence and being allowed to get away with it.  There are a lot of these groups.  How many more times are we to be subjected to the whims of a bunch of crazies with guns?  BTW, these people are mormon fuckwits.

No I am paying attention, that's why I didn't ask "If these people were black would they have been killed by now?"
Because I was paying attention and I know you have already said that they would have been.
My question is these armed insurrectionists were black would you want them to be shot dead?

Do you want armed black people who rebel against the government or civil authority to be shot dead?

As opposed to allowing them to continue violating the law without any response by the government?

Yes.  Although I imagine more of a late-night, flash bang and tear gas assault rather than a tank attack.

That is one of the risks you assume when you take up arms to settle grievances.  These clowns talk a good game.  My guess is that they'd wet their pants at the first shot.

(January 6, 2016 at 10:59 pm)Minimalist Wrote: As opposed to allowing them to continue violating the law without any response by the government?

Yes.  Although I imagine more of a late-night, flash bang and tear gas assault rather than a tank attack.

That is one of the  risks you assume when you take up arms to settle grievances.  These clowns talk a good game.  My guess is that they'd wet their pants at the first shot.

So do you think that there's nothing on their side that is reasonable in this protest?  You think the government was taxing them fairly?

I haven't fully researched the actual reasoning behind why these people are doing this much so I just want your opinion if you're willing to give it.

A lot of people are against all different kinds of taxation in America and not just these white guys, I've heard in this case it also has something to do with endangered turtles on their land.

They are protesting the sentences given to two arsonists.  The arsonists have already invited them to go fuck themselves and surrendered to the authorities to serve their sentences.

This is about a bunch of armed nuts waving guns around.