Thanks for telling us that anyone who doesn't agree with your interpretation is irrational and stupid. It's a real ice breaker.

The last person one should get an 'impartial' history lesson from on Islam is someone indoctrinated into the belief system. It would be like getting a history lesson on the rise of national socialism from an SS General.

(January 9, 2016 at 6:27 am)yukapuka Wrote: That's where your wrong, HE is a role model and his morals and values and personality is what is still reverting people today to Islam [...]

Sure - Muhammad (may his ar*e be penetrated by a thousand donkey dongs) is a role model. Pieces of sh*t, pedophiles and warlords need role models too. I'm sure ISIS c*nts model themselves after the f-ing prophet.

There are people in Russia today, that still revere Stalin, despite all the evil he brought on his own people. Primitive, uncivilized and backward people (which is what constitutes the majority of Muslims worldwide) fail to learn from history - which they largely have no access to anyway, because of censorship, propaganda and being uneducated, illiterate peasants - and will follow the most horrible monsters, especially those, that died long enough ago, so that apologists can make up fantastic sh*t about them.

F*ck Muhammad. Hail Satan!

(January 8, 2016 at 2:29 am)Sheed1980 Wrote: Hey my friend to you be your way of belief and to me be mine

Clearly you don't think different beliefs should have mutual respect, otherwise you wouldn't have said

(January 7, 2016 at 5:52 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote: I pitty ur sad since of humor and I guarantee ur mockery will harm u in the long run. But just to give you the info PBUH means Peace be upon him which we as Muslims wish upon all of God's prophets

or

(January 7, 2016 at 7:23 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote:

(January 7, 2016 at 6:06 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: My mockery of a fantasy delusion will harm me? Bring it on. In fact pray for it. It's all fantasy. MTFBWY (may the force be with you).

just be careful what u pray for my friend. Allah hears and sees all and never forgets.

It's clear, and all too typical, that you wish to deny the respect for other people's beliefs that you expect or even demand for your own. Pack it in.

(January 9, 2016 at 7:19 am)Stimbo Wrote:

(January 8, 2016 at 2:29 am)Sheed1980 Wrote: Hey my friend to you be your way of belief and to me be mine

Clearly you don't think different beliefs should have mutual respect, otherwise you wouldn't have said

Actually he was hinting to a passage in the quraan that says that "you have your beliefs and I have mine" something like that. It usually is quoted to signify that muslims respect other people's beliefs and are rather ok that other people do not want to believe in Islam

Quote:other people in history have done great things, but his greatness surpasses them all, he has a mass following and will have for as long as the earth floats in space

and not just that the fastest growing religion persay!!

I think the billions the saudis spend building mosques and funding preachers all over the world may have something to do with this. Add to that the fact that Islam is a one way religion, meaning you can get in, but you can't leave. Of course you don't tell westerners that, you tell them the good parts and when they say the chahada you tell them if you leave your head will fly. And add to that men marry 4 women and have as many children as "Allah wills" and the welfare tax payers pay for them of course, while the reasonable people who do the financial math only have one if any children at all.

I wouldn't be too excited if I were you about Islam taking over the world, it will be pretty much exactly like when Islam took over the middle east: Muslims will kill one another, except this time it will be on a global scale, I don't think you will like it very much.

(January 7, 2016 at 7:23 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote: just be careful what u pray for my friend. Allah hears and sees all and never forgets.

Dear Santa Allah! Please give me a**-cancer. The worst kind - the kind that hangs out of the rectum and bounces off the buttocks, alternately slapping them, as I walk. Until that happens - I'll keep believing that you don't exist, or are a weakling, cowardly god, that your unwashed prophets were frauds as well as c*ck-smokers and that people, who follow them are semi-retarded little b*tches, with no dignity or morals. That is all.

Well - I'm waiting...

F*ck Mohammad (Prophet Buggering Underage Horses).

(January 9, 2016 at 7:42 am)mr_j936 Wrote:

(January 9, 2016 at 7:19 am)Stimbo Wrote: Clearly you don't think different beliefs should have mutual respect, otherwise you wouldn't have said

Actually he was hinting to a passage in the quraan that says that "you have your beliefs and I have mine" something like that. It usually is quoted to signify that muslims respect other people's beliefs and are rather ok that other people do not want to believe in Islam

Which he completely contradicted by his earlier comments. The actual source of his allusion is irrelevant (thanks for enlightening me though). If he's not going to stand by the words he posts, it's nothing but empty rhetoric. And if he expects others to stand by his words when he won't, it's something else entirely; and nothing flattering.

(January 9, 2016 at 6:46 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: The last person one should get an 'impartial' history lesson from on Islam is someone indoctrinated into the belief system. It would be like getting a history lesson on the rise of national socialism from an SS General.

(January 7, 2016 at 5:50 pm)abaris Wrote:

(January 7, 2016 at 4:54 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: It's hard for me to see how the wealthiest traders in Mecca, would embrace Islam & destroy many sources of income forever.

Why is that so hard to see? Getting rid of the competition isn't exactly a novel idea. Taking over the competition's assets and territory is another thought.

They already "owned" property and already have most wealth in Mecca. Take somebody like Uthman Ibn Affan :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uthman

Quoting wikipedia :

Quote:Uthman followed the same profession as his father, and his business flourished, making him one of the richest men among the Qurayshi tribe.[4

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The man could've organize armies all by himself, why would he leave Mecca ?

(January 9, 2016 at 1:47 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: They already "owned" property and already have most wealth in Mecca. Take somebody like Uthman Ibn Affan :

Well, so? Dick Cheney had massive wealth. Didn't prevent him to support the invasion of Iraq and making sure that Haliburton, where he held a rather impressive share, to get the most lucrative contracts.