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it really is amazing how rude and vulgar you atheists are
take a cur from religion on morals and instead of swearing every second word, why dont you learn to use higher language
this again proves why religion supersedes atheism, because your way of delivery is just vulgar and rude
how much you swear and how rude you lot are, it doesnt show anything but lack of intelligence and irrationality
you cant even communicate like normal people
all your responses are personal insults
really disappointing , and plus you seem to not be able to separate emotion from argument, you get emotionally invovled like women, and you cant think straight when your blinded by anger and prejudice and bias
you need to learn how to debate without it turning into "..crazy hobo drunk speech.."
again this actually comes from lack of intelligence, go read a bit about psychology
i came here to discuss with people, and the only respond you have is "swear word, swearword word swear word.."
swearing at somebody isnt not debunking them, its making yourself look hopeless and unable to answer
intelligent people argue on facts, not how much more they can insult each other
another problem you have is facts, you quote absolute ignorant nonsense, you dont know how to make a rational argument cause your so driven by emotion and prejudice and bias
the amount of people here that have sworn at me when i have not made any kind of aggressive suggestion towards anyone is just ridiculous
i guess it proves that religion is better then atheism, because at least we can control our emotion and tongue to say the least
January 10, 2016 at 12:21 am (This post was last modified: January 10, 2016 at 12:22 am by The Grand Nudger.)
You gonna be okay? You seem really disheartened.
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(January 9, 2016 at 11:44 pm)yukapuka Wrote: it really is amazing how rude and vulgar you atheists are
take a cur from religion on morals and instead of swearing every second word, why dont you learn to use higher language
this again proves why religion supersedes atheism, because your way of delivery is just vulgar and rude
how much you swear and how rude you lot are, it doesnt show anything but lack of intelligence and irrationality
you cant even communicate like normal people
all your responses are personal insults
really disappointing , and plus you seem to not be able to separate emotion from argument, you get emotionally invovled like women, and you cant think straight when your blinded by anger and prejudice and bias
you need to learn how to debate without it turning into "..crazy hobo drunk speech.."
again this actually comes from lack of intelligence, go read a bit about psychology
i came here to discuss with people, and the only respond you have is "swear word, swearword word swear word.."
swearing at somebody isnt not debunking them, its making yourself look hopeless and unable to answer
intelligent people argue on facts, not how much more they can insult each other
another problem you have is facts, you quote absolute ignorant nonsense, you dont know how to make a rational argument cause your so driven by emotion and prejudice and bias
the amount of people here that have sworn at me when i have not made any kind of aggressive suggestion towards anyone is just ridiculous
i guess it proves that religion is better then atheism, because at least we can control our emotion and tongue to say the least
Consider punctuation and capitalization. It's polite.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
January 10, 2016 at 2:16 am (This post was last modified: January 10, 2016 at 2:19 am by robvalue.)
Why on earth would anyone be rude to them?
All they did was bust into Tiberius' virtual house, ranting, raving, shitting all over the carpet and threatening us with torture, while ignoring all attempts to ask them to show some respect. I can't believe anyone would resort to rude words after such totally acceptable behaviour.
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(January 9, 2016 at 6:33 pm)Irrational Wrote: You have low standards for what constitutes miracles.
well that's what most people don't understand. They think a miracle has to be something that appears out of the blue or goes against science and nature. I'm not saying that when these kind of things happen they aren't miracles, because a miracle is an act of God that cannot be produced without His will and power. Here's the way it happened. God sent a prophet to every nation of people He created. This way the prophet was able to speak to his people in their own native tongue, so they could understand the message to worship God alone. There have been over 120,000 prophets sent since the beginning of mankind all over the world. So for example when a Hebrew prophet was sent they called God "Yahweh" the Hebrew name for God. Whereas if an English speaking prophet was sent he would call God "God" the English name for God. And if a Spanish prophet was sent he would call God "Dios". They all refer to the same Supreme Being just in different languages. Now I'm just using these 3 languages as examples. I don't know for sure if English or Spanish had even existed the way Hebrew and many other languages did. Anyway to use some well known prophetic names. In prophet Moses'(pbuh)time the people then were highly arrogant because of their knowledge of magic. So God sent Moses(pbuh)with miracles that out performed the peoples' trickery, such as his rod turning into a serpent and back into a rod, and Moses(pbuh)being a dark skinned desert man, placing his hand in his bosom and it glowed white like the moon, and also his parting the sea. These were all acts of God(miracles)which God used through His prophet Moses(pbuh)to let these people know, no matter how knowledgeable of magic and trickery they were they could not out perform God's Almighty power. So if they follow Moses, he will guide them to God. Just as in Jesus'(pbuh)time, the people then were highly arrogant due to their knowledge of medicine. So first God sends His prophet Jesus(pbuh)born of a virgin woman, basically saying: What medicine can you people come up with that can impregnate a virgin woman? Then with God's will and power Jesus(pbuh)healed lepers, cured the blind, and even raised the dead among other miracles. So God shows these people their knowledge of medicine was nothing compared to His Almighty power which He showed them through His prophet Jesus(pbuh). Now in prophet Muhammad's(pbuh)time the people were arrogant because of their knowledge of poetry and linguistics. The Arabs of this land would sometimes have words that had 100 synonyms. So what God used here was His scripture The Holy Qur'an, through Muhammad(pbuh)who was an illiterate man.. Everyone who knew him knew he was unlearned and could not read nor write. By doing this God showed that this scripture couldn't be produced by a human being, therefore could only come from God Himself. The Qur'an was first revealed to Muhammad(pbuh)from God through the Angel Gabriel in the year 610. The entire Qur'an was revealed over a 23 year period verses at a time. Since Muhammad was an Arab the language he spoke was Arabic which is why we are called "Muslims" which is Arabic for "Submitters to God" and why we call God "Allah" simply the Arabic name for God. The difference between Muhammad(pbuh)and all other prophets is that they were only sent to their own nation of people, whereas Muhammad(pbuh)was not just sent to the Arabs, but for the rest of mankind. When reading the Qur'an in Arabic the verses rhyme. But the message is much bigger than that. God says here what poetry can you people come up with that not only gives a religious message, rhymes, but has scientific, mathematical, astronomical, and linguistic miracles that no one except God could have knowledge of? For instance the word for day appears throughout the Qur'an exactly 365 times. The word for month appears exactly 12 times. The word for sea appears 32 times and the word for land appears 13 times. 32+13=45. 32/45=71.11% the exact percentage of water that covers the Earth and 13/45=28.89% the exact percentage of land that covers the Earth. Angels and devils are compared with each other and they both are used 88 times each. This life and Hereafter are each used 115 times. Man and woman are each used 23 times and males and females each have 23 sex chromosomes as well. Ch. 16 is The Honeybee, scientists today have discovered that the bee has 16 chromosomes. I should also mention that these words are not all used in the same verses like man and woman, man and woman. But are scattered throughout the Qur’an which remember I said didn’t all come down at one time, but verses at a time over a 23 year period. So what human being, who can’t read or write, would be able to keep up with how many times a specific word was used in a book containing 6236 verses in 114 chapters, over a 23 year period? I could see if just 1 or 2 of these miracles appeared, they could be considered a coincidence, but with all of these and so many more , which I would be more than happy to share with u, show that all of this could only be produced by God Allah.
You're not paying attention at all to what people are telling you here, are you? How many times do we have to tell you numerology is something you can do with any large body of text?
(January 9, 2016 at 11:44 pm)yukapuka Wrote: it really is amazing how rude and vulgar you atheists are
take a cur from religion on morals and instead of swearing every second word, why dont you learn to use higher language
this again proves why religion supersedes atheism, because your way of delivery is just vulgar and rude
how much you swear and how rude you lot are, it doesnt show anything but lack of intelligence and irrationality
you cant even communicate like normal people
all your responses are personal insults
really disappointing , and plus you seem to not be able to separate emotion from argument, you get emotionally invovled like women, and you cant think straight when your blinded by anger and prejudice and bias
you need to learn how to debate without it turning into "..crazy hobo drunk speech.."
again this actually comes from lack of intelligence, go read a bit about psychology
i came here to discuss with people, and the only respond you have is "swear word, swearword word swear word.."
swearing at somebody isnt not debunking them, its making yourself look hopeless and unable to answer
intelligent people argue on facts, not how much more they can insult each other
another problem you have is facts, you quote absolute ignorant nonsense, you dont know how to make a rational argument cause your so driven by emotion and prejudice and bias
the amount of people here that have sworn at me when i have not made any kind of aggressive suggestion towards anyone is just ridiculous
i guess it proves that religion is better then atheism, because at least we can control our emotion and tongue to say the least
Maybe we take our cues from the Bible. It refers to people as whoremongers, bastards, garbage, dogs, swine, sons of hell.
Quote:it really is amazing how rude and vulgar you atheists are
They don't suicide bomb against innocent people, and so it still puts them miles ahead of Muslims. And I am only saying this because you decided to speak in generalization. You are right that some here were less than mature and it bothered me as well, but don't generalize. 3 people are hardly a sample of all the atheists in the world.
(January 8, 2016 at 11:21 am)drfuzzy Wrote: And clearly you didn't bother to read the rules.
Miracles! As somebody else posted, they MIGHT be worth looking at if all of the modern "miracles" mentioned were actually in the original text. Otherwise, all you have is someone manipulating letters and numbers in a book. You can do that with ANY book. You can find the same "miracles" in a Harry Potter book, a cookbook, or a newspaper.
I'm not saying you are wrong, but can you show examples of other books having a lot of coincidences like Quran does? You can read some of those there though I can't testify to all that's there: http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/mathem...index.html
(haven't checked all, but all the ones I have checked were true)
I want to understand this thing. What is the probability etc.
Why yes the bible is full of them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_code
As is every book of sufficient length. Look up numerology and Moby Dick or Harry Potter.
