Based on the story sexual activity did occur. My verdict is that there was no rape. Next case.

(January 12, 2016 at 5:23 am)pool Wrote: I stand by what I said.

Everyone should be held responsible for their actions. Women are not fragile creatures that don't know any better, I don't understand why they always get a pass. Seriously, did you guys even see that youtube video I posted? Some chicks get into a cabby and when he asks for the charge they cry that he raped them and molested them, he was lucky he had the whole incident on tape otherwise his whole life would've been ruined. His marriage would have fallen apart, his children would've been disgusted by him, society would spite him. His whole life would've been turned to complete shit and he'd probably kill himself. But that's probably alright since those ladies didn't know this would've happened to him. And what happens when the Cops at the scene review the tapes and finds that he had not done anything? They let the chicks go free. I don't get it. If he didn't have those tapes his life would've been ruined by their false accusations. But when it was found their accusations were false, they were let go.

If you wave a hamburger in front of a guy desperate for food, teasing him with it, he will snatch it from you and eat it. If you don't understand this, you aren't qualified to live in this society. If anyone have a problem with what I think, I welcome you to challenge it. I will however ignore you if your challenge is directed at me in the form of insults rather than at my beliefs.
Have a good day.

Your case in the first paragraph is not relevant much to the argument you made in the next paragraph. That cab driver was not tempted to rape the two women, but in the second paragraph, you seem to be saying that if a man was tempted by a woman enough to want to rape her, then she should accept this. Or have I misunderstood you?

I do agree with you in the first paragraph, though, that false accusations can be really damning to the innocent person.

(January 12, 2016 at 6:11 am)Irrational Wrote:

(January 12, 2016 at 5:23 am)pool Wrote: I stand by what I said.

Everyone should be held responsible for their actions. Women are not fragile creatures that don't know any better, I don't understand why they always get a pass. Seriously, did you guys even see that youtube video I posted? Some chicks get into a cabby and when he asks for the charge they cry that he raped them and molested them, he was lucky he had the whole incident on tape otherwise his whole life would've been ruined. His marriage would have fallen apart, his children would've been disgusted by him, society would spite him. His whole life would've been turned to complete shit and he'd probably kill himself. But that's probably alright since those ladies didn't know this would've happened to him. And what happens when the Cops at the scene review the tapes and finds that he had not done anything? They let the chicks go free. I don't get it. If he didn't have those tapes his life would've been ruined by their false accusations. But when it was found their accusations were false, they were let go.

If you wave a hamburger in front of a guy desperate for food, teasing him with it, he will snatch it from you and eat it. If you don't understand this, you aren't qualified to live in this society. If anyone have a problem with what I think, I welcome you to challenge it. I will however ignore you if your challenge is directed at me in the form of insults rather than at my beliefs.
Have a good day.

Your case in the first paragraph is not relevant much to the argument you made in the next paragraph. That cab driver was not tempted to rape the two women, but in the second paragraph, you seem to be saying that if a man was tempted by a woman enough to want to rape her, then she should accept this. Or have I misunderstood you?

I do agree with you in the first paragraph, though, that false accusations can be really damning to the innocent person.

You have misunderstood me. Second para stands by itself. Different points I wanted to get across through the first and second para. The two paragraphs aren't related.

(January 12, 2016 at 5:23 am)pool Wrote: I stand by what I said.

Everyone should be held responsible for their actions. Women are not fragile creatures that don't know any better, I don't understand why they always get a pass. Seriously, did you guys even see that youtube video I posted? Some chicks get into a cabby and when he asks for the charge they cry that he raped them and molested them, he was lucky he had the whole incident on tape otherwise his whole life would've been ruined. His marriage would have fallen apart, his children would've been disgusted by him, society would spite him. His whole life would've been turned to complete shit and he'd probably kill himself. But that's probably alright since those ladies didn't know this would've happened to him. And what happens when the Cops at the scene review the tapes and finds that he had not done anything? They let the chicks go free. I don't get it. If he didn't have those tapes his life would've been ruined by their false accusations. But when it was found their accusations were false, they were let go.

If you wave a hamburger in front of a guy desperate for food, teasing him with it, he will snatch it from you and eat it. If you don't understand this, you aren't qualified to live in this society. If anyone have a problem with what I think, I welcome you to challenge it. I will however ignore you if your challenge is directed at me in the form of insults rather than at my beliefs.
Have a good day.

Women always get a pass, and are manipulative, conniving bitches. Got it.

Women do not tempt men into wanting to rape them, that is ridiculous. Women may tempt men into wanting to have sex with them but rape is whole different mindset. Just because your tempted or attracted to something does not give you the right to that thing, if you do not understand that you do not belong in civilized society.

(January 12, 2016 at 5:23 am)pool Wrote: I stand by what I said.

Everyone should be held responsible for their actions.

Pool. Even IF she agreed to have sex with him, by him forcing her to do what she didn't want was still rape.

Goddamned idiot.

And I shall give you a story. About 6 years ago a female friend and I had been drinking. She tried it on, I said to her "you're drunk" and sent her home home in a cab that I paid for. That's what men do, they don't go and rape women who are vulnerable.

No, women are not conniving because there is no such thing as "women", except as a collective concept. There is only the individual woman. Some are conniving; overwhelmingly, though, most are decent human beings. It's almost like they're people.

I think rather than the myth of the temptress seeking to put men into bad situations for personal gain, false accusations (roughly 2 to 10 percent of rape accusations are false, according to best estimates... see link below) are more commonly a psychological result of our culture's Puritanism and sexual shaming. For instance, a woman may get a little drunk and make a bad decision, such as defying her parents' wishes that she remain sexless, or cheating on a partner. Then, when they sober up and are faced with people who saw them with the guy, they'll deny their own agency in making it happen... "Oh, no, I'm not one of those women, those dirty-dirty-sluts; he forced me!"

There are also examples I've seen, when working as a prison law clerk, of men whose wives used such accusations (or accusations of molestation of the children) as "cheap divorces", knowing the Law would "take him away". This is especially common where the guy has financial resources and she wants to have them but not keep him. Juries, unfortunately, tend to believe eyewitness testimony (the least reliable) over actual science (such as the examiner finding no evidence of rape/molestation).

But, while the cabbie-on-camera story is horrifying and terrifying, I'm afraid I can't buy that it's anything but an anomaly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape

In the case of someone who has had lightning strike them ten times in a row, I'd have to question the psychological aspects/motivations of the woman making these allegations. No man is entitled to sex, no matter what the circumstances may be that lead up to the situation; likewise, no man is deserving of being treated as automatically-guilty in the case of such an accusation.

(January 12, 2016 at 8:14 am)Aractus Wrote:

(January 12, 2016 at 5:23 am)pool Wrote: I stand by what I said.

Everyone should be held responsible for their actions.

Pool. Even IF she agreed to have sex with him, by him forcing her to do what she didn't want was still rape.

Goddamned idiot.

And I shall give you a story. About 6 years ago a female friend and I had been drinking. She tried it on, I said to her "you're drunk" and sent her home home in a cab that I paid for. That's what men do, they don't go and rape women who are vulnerable.

There have been times when my Sam - my own fiancée - came on to me and was all over me after a night with the girls; and I turned her down specifically because she was drunk and it would have been taking advantage of her. The morning after the first time, she told me she was surprised because she'd had guys in the past who did take advantage, and that she loved me all the more because it was another way in which I was different. Then we went off and reaffirmed our love, so we could both enjoy it properly.

(January 12, 2016 at 8:45 am)Stimbo Wrote:

(January 12, 2016 at 8:14 am)Aractus Wrote: Pool. Even IF she agreed to have sex with him, by him forcing her to do what she didn't want was still rape.

Goddamned idiot.

And I shall give you a story. About 6 years ago a female friend and I had been drinking. She tried it on, I said to her "you're drunk" and sent her home home in a cab that I paid for. That's what men do, they don't go and rape women who are vulnerable.

There have been times when my Sam - my own fiancée - came on to me and was all over me after a night with the girls; and I turned her down specifically because she was drunk and it would have been taking advantage of her. The morning after the first time, she told me she was surprised because she'd had guys in the past who did take advantage, and that she loved me all the more because it was another way in which I was different. Then we went off and reaffirmed our love, so we could both enjoy it properly.

Honestly, I've had sex with my girlfriend when we were both drunk/high, but we weren't intoxicated to the point of not knowing what we were doing, and none of us showed any signs of not wanting to have sex. There's nothing wrong with having sex while drunk/high, some people specifically take drugs to have sex after because of how it alters your body, but there's a difference between knowing when you can do it and when you can't.

(January 12, 2016 at 8:14 am)Aractus Wrote:

(January 12, 2016 at 5:23 am)pool Wrote: I stand by what I said.

Everyone should be held responsible for their actions.

Pool. Even IF she agreed to have sex with him, by him forcing her to do what she didn't want was still rape.

Goddamned idiot.

And I shall give you a story. About 6 years ago a female friend and I had been drinking. She tried it on, I said to her "you're drunk" and sent her home home in a cab that I paid for. That's what men do, they don't go and rape women who are vulnerable.

I tried my best to ignore your comments but since you've now directly addressed me I have no other way but to reply, so please know that I didn't really want to say this:

You stupid shit head excuse of a goddamn dumbass. You really don't know how to read English do you? Or is it the comprehension that's giving you trouble? Stop trying to put words into my mouth like an imbecile while you attempt to appear like the hero AF deserves. You shit heads are making me out as some women hater. I love women, I hate shit heads, is that so hard to understand? I know what rape is. I'm not advocating for rape. Holy shit, you really are brainless aren't you? You think I go around raping women that are vulnerable? Jesus fucking Christ man. You don't know shit about me and you're judging me like you've known me from my birth. So stop assuming my persona.

Okay, I know you're feeling pissed off. Stop. Don't comment. This comment was directed at everyone that mistook my intentions. I didn't really mean what I said. I know you're a wonderful person and I think what you did with that female friend was very nice, I hope we have more understanding and good men like you.