(January 16, 2016 at 7:24 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 16, 2016 at 7:00 am)yukapuka Wrote: No scientists are saying that DARK ENERGY and DARK MATTER wiped out the Dinosaurs and created us humans

http://www.popsci.com.au/science/inside-...ome,378284

http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...dinosaurs/

which is preety much like saying God diod both things, because what it is , is a powerful force, but where it comes from is unknown, however what it outlines is structure and order in the universe and not a RANDOM act or sequence (which would be an oxymoron statement i.e RANDOM series)

Garbage, sorry.

Hate to burst your bubble, but if you think your religion is the only to try to co opt science to prop up a bronze age comic book, you'd be wrong. I have seen Muslims and Jews and Hindus and Buddhists all pull the "Look see science matches my religion".

This is the stupid fine tuning argument, which still does not work. The vast majority of the universe is hostile to life, which would be a pretty shitty thing to do to humans, stick them on a tiny rock in the middle of nowhere, have them ignorant scientifically for most of their existence. Give them all confusing books instead of science textbooks, let them murder over the gang manuals for most of written history then blame them for what he didn't have to set up.

Hinduism is much older than the god/s of Abraham, 

http://agniveer.com/science-in-vedas/

Jews do it too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Science


Buddhists too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_science

Muslims too.

http://www.quranandscience.com/


Seems to me what is really going on, just like you, humans simply don't want to face their finite reality.

Once again the atheists show their ignorance and stupidity and lack of knowledge and lack of history and lack of sanity

you guys just seem to outdo yourself in stupidity and ignorance every day

firstly Science owes ALOT to Islam........

now should i wait for you to respond with something like "that's not true" and your attempt to ridicule my statement before i show you historical fact and rip you AGAIN to shreds ?

because in your mind, you cant fathom that statement, and you dont know what i am talking about, because your an idiot atheists who doesnt know any history about science or any factual facts about anything

you talk out of ignorance , so go ahead humiliate yourself again and i will enlighten you with some actual historical knowledge
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come on, i am waiting for you to say something ignorant and stupid once more
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you guys are masters of ignorant statements and showing stupidity

Quote:ps i am a trained physicist

Stop talking out your arse.

Ok, are you done having a hissy fit? Do you want to get back on topic? I know you are growing hair in strange places and maybe your voice just lowered and you feel like a big boy, but you've moved past step one and haven't even supported your own claim yet.

Can you support your original claim with some evidence, or do we just move on because you can't?

Oh, who was the that banned troll who hated profanity?

This OPs signature is your direct link.

Science does owe a debt to Islam. They keep alive the science and philosophy of the Greeks and Romans, even adding to them while Europe wallowed in the Dark Ages.

Yet Islam then sank into a dark age of its own from whuch it has not yet fully emerged.

Now, you'll respond with something ignorant and stupid while trying to paint atheists with the same brush you have been showing you're psinted with.

Here is a clue stupid

ALGEBRA = Al - Jibr

do a google, butt he best part is THAT'S just scratching the surface

here is another clue

Prophet Muhammad said "Seek knowledge even if you have to go to china"

and one more

"It is incumbent upon all believers that they seek knowledge "

here is more clues

“Once Jibril (Gabriel) came to Adam, recipient of divine
supreme covenant, and said, ‘I am ordered to offer you three
choices. You may choose one and leave the other two.’ Adam
then asked, ‘What are those three things?’ Gabriel replied,
‘They are Intelligence, Bashfulness and Religion.’
Adam then said, ‘I choose Intelligence.’ Jibril (Gabriel) then
asked Bashfulness and Religion to return and leave Intelligence
with Adam. They said to Jibril, ‘O Jibril, we are commanded to
be with Intelligence wherever it may exist. Jibril then said, ‘It
then is up to you.’ He then ascended to heaven.”

and one more

“I heard (Imam) al-Rida, recipient of divine supreme covenant,
saying, ‘The friend of a person is his/her intelligence and the
enemy of a person is his/her Ignorance.’”

are you getting it yet?

Quran "Read in the name of your Lord , who created man from a clinging substance"
"Who taught by the pen"
"Taught man that which he knew not"

and more clues

hopefully your getting this

“One who has Intelligence has religion also and one who has
religion enters paradise.”

“Allah, on the Day of Judgment, will hold everyone
accountable, proportionate to the degree of the Intelligence that
He had given them in their worldly life.”

and the final nail in the coffin

in history while the Christians where suppressing and obscuring the seeking of knowledge and learning of science and development of science
and while the Jews where too busy been exiled from city to city because they were trying desperately to plot and plan to take power from the kings

the Muslims where busy doing what the Prophet and God commanded..... developing science

"Seek knowledge even if you have to go to china"

and boy did we seek it


Ibn Sirin (654–728), author of work on dreams and dream interpretation[1]
Al-Kindi (Alkindus), pioneer of psychotherapy and music therapy[2]
Ali ibn Sahl Rabban al-Tabari, pioneer of psychiatry, clinical psychiatry and clinical psychology[3]
Ahmed ibn Sahl al-Balkhi, pioneer of mental health,[4] medical psychology, cognitive psychology, cognitive therapy, psychophysiology and psychosomatic medicine[5]
Al-Farabi (Alpharabius), pioneer of social psychology and consciousness studies[6]
Ali ibn Abbas al-Majusi (Haly Abbas), pioneer of neuroanatomy, neurobiology and neurophysiology[6]
Abu al-Qasim al-Zahrawi (Abulcasis), pioneer of neurosurgery[7]
Ibn al-Haytham (Alhazen), founder of experimental psychology, psychophysics, phenomenology and visual perception[8]
Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī, pioneer of reaction time[9]
Avicenna (Ibn Sīnā), pioneer of neuropsychiatry,[10] thought experiment, self-awareness and self-consciousness[11]
Ibn Zuhr (Avenzoar), pioneer of neurology and neuropharmacology[7]
Averroes, pioneer of Parkinson's disease[7]
Ibn Tufail, pioneer of tabula rasa and nature versus nurture[12]


Abu Nasr Al-Farabi (872 – 950)
Also known as Alpharabius. Arab scientist and philosopher, considered as one of the preeminent thinkers of medieval era.

Al-Battani (858 – 929)
Also known as Albatenius. Arab mathematician, scientists and astronomer who improved existing values for the length of the year and of the seasons.

Chemists and alchemists:
Jafar al-Sadiq (702 - 765)
Jābir ibn Hayyān (721 - 815) (Geber), father of chemistry[16][17][18]
Abbas Ibn Firnas (810 - 887) (Armen Firman)
Al-Kindi (801-873) (Alkindus)
Al-Majriti (fl. 1008 - 1007)
Ibn Miskawayh (932 - 1030)
Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī (973 - 1048)
Avicenna (980 - 1037)
Al-Khazini (fl. 1115-1130)
Nasir al-Din Tusi (1201 - 1274)
Ibn Khaldun (1332 - 1406)
Salimuzzaman Siddiqui (1897 - 1994)
Al-Khwārizmī (780 - 850), father of Algebra, (Mathematics)
Economists and social scientists
Abu Hanifa an-Nu‘man (699-767), Islamic jurisprudence scholar
Abu Yusuf (731-798), Islamic jurisprudence scholar
Al-Saghani (d. 990), one of the earliest historians of science[20]
Shams al-Mo'ali Abol-hasan Ghaboos ibn Wushmgir (Qabus) (d. 1012), economist
Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī (973-1048), considered the "first anthropologist"[21] and father of Indology[22]
Ibn Sīnā (Avicenna) (980–1037), economist
Ibn Miskawayh (b. 1030), economist
Al-Ghazali (Algazel) (1058–1111), economist
Al-Mawardi (1075–1158), economist
Nasīr al-Dīn al-Tūsī (Tusi) (1201–1274), economist
Ibn al-Nafis (1213–1288), sociologist
Ibn Taymiyyah (1263–1328), economist
Ibn Khaldun (1332–1406), forerunner of social sciences[23] such as demography,[24] cultural history,[25] historiography,[26] philosophy of history,[27] sociology[24][27] and economics[28][29]
Al-Maqrizi (1364–1442), economist

Geographers and earth scientists
Al-Masudi, the "Herodotus of the Arabs", and pioneer of historical geography[32]
Al-Kindi, pioneer of environmental science[33]
Ibn Al-Jazzar
Al-Tamimi
Al-Masihi
Ali ibn Ridwan
Muhammad al-Idrisi, also a cartographer
Ahmad ibn Fadlan
Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī, father of geodesy,[21][24] considered the first geologist and "first anthropologist"[21]
Avicenna
Abd al-Latif al-Baghdadi
Averroes
Ibn al-Nafis
Ibn Jubayr
Ibn Battuta
Ibn Khaldun

the first mathematicians:
Muhammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī (Algorismi) - father of algebra[34] and algorithms[35]
'Abd al-Hamīd ibn Turk
Abū al-Hasan ibn Alī al-Qalasādī (1412–1482), pioneer of symbolic algebra[36]
Abū Kāmil Shujā ibn Aslam
Al-Abbās ibn Said al-Jawharī
Al-Kindi (Alkindus)
Banū Mūsā (Ben Mousa)
Ja'far Muhammad ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
Al-Hasan ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
Al-Khwarizmi
Al-Mahani
Ahmed ibn Yusuf
Al-Majriti
Muhammad ibn Jābir al-Harrānī al-Battānī (Albatenius)
Al-Farabi (Abunaser)
Al-Khalili
Al-Nayrizi
Abū Ja'far al-Khāzin
Brethren of Purity
Abu'l-Hasan al-Uqlidisi
Al-Saghani
Abū Sahl al-Qūhī
Abu-Mahmud al-Khujandi
Abū al-Wafā' al-Būzjānī
Ibn Sahl
Al-Sijzi
Ibn Yunus
Abu Nasr Mansur
Kushyar ibn Labban
Al-Karaji
Ibn al-Haytham (Alhacen/Alhazen)
Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī
Ibn Tahir al-Baghdadi
Al-Nasawi
Al-Jayyani
Abū Ishāq Ibrāhīm al-Zarqālī (Arzachel)
Al-Mu'taman ibn Hud
Omar Khayyám
Al-Khazini
Ibn Bajjah (Avempace)
Al-Ghazali (Algazel)
Al-Marrakushi
Al-Samawal
Ibn Rushd (Averroes)
Ibn Seena (Avicenna)
Hunayn ibn Ishaq
Ibn al-Banna'
Ibn al-Shatir
Ja'far ibn Muhammad Abu Ma'shar al-Balkhi (Albumasar)
Jamshīd al-Kāshī
Kamāl al-Dīn al-Fārisī
Muḥyi al-Dīn al-Maghribī
Mo'ayyeduddin Urdi
Muhammad Baqir Yazdi
Nasir al-Din al-Tusi, 13th century Persian mathematician and philosopher
Qāḍī Zāda al-Rūmī
Qutb al-Din al-Shirazi
Shams al-Dīn al-Samarqandī
Sharaf al-Dīn al-Tūsī
Taqi al-Din Muhammad ibn Ma'ruf
Ulugh Beg

the first physicists
Mimar Sinan, (1489/1588 Also known as Koca Mi'mâr Sinân Âğâ)
Jafar al-Sadiq, 8th century
Banū Mūsā (Ben Mousa), 9th century
Ja'far Muhammad ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
Ahmad ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
Al-Hasan ibn Mūsā ibn Shākir
Abbas Ibn Firnas (Armen Firman), 9th century
Al-Saghani, (d. 990)
Abū Sahl al-Qūhī (Kuhi), 10th century
Ibn Sahl, 10th century
Ibn Yunus, 10th century
Al-Karaji, 10th century
Ibn al-Haytham (Alhacen), 11th century Iraqi scientist, father of optics,[37] and experimental physics,[38] considered the "first scientist"[39]
Abū Rayhān al-Bīrūnī, 11th century, pioneer of experimental mechanics[40]
Ibn Sīnā/Seena (Avicenna), 11th century
Al-Khazini, 12th century
Ibn Bajjah (Avempace), 12th century
Hibat Allah Abu'l-Barakat al-Baghdaadi (Nathanel), 12th century
Ibn Rushd/Rooshd (Averroes), 12th century Andalusian mathematician, philosopher and medical expert
Al-Jazari, 13th century civil engineer, father of robotics,[18]
Nasir al-Din Tusi, 13th century
Qutb al-Din al-Shirazi, 13th century
Kamāl al-Dīn al-Fārisī, 13th century
Ibn al-Shatir, 14th century
Taqi al-Din Muhammad ibn Ma'ruf, 16th century

See while the western world was busy suppressing science we were developing it and it got born and its methods defined and created in the Muslims empire because our religion ENCOURAGED science and thinking EXTENSIVELY!!

and ALL the science we have today was developed by the Arab Muslims including some very important fields whihc was pioneerred by Muslim scientists

i.e Chemistry (alkalie arabic word and MANy others)
Mathematics
Physics

yes the Greeks also developed mathematics but their main fields was Geometrical mathematics but algebra belonged to he Arabs

Great wall of stupid text that means nothing. I do not thank you for your appearance.

Hide tags are your friend......where did you crib all of that from anyway? I'd love a link......
(the reference brackets are a dead giveaway for copy paste spam)

Lol. I guess so. Well you've failed to shake my lack of faith. All you've done is proved yourself incapable of engaging in a coherent discussion.

So, quotes from a book of myths and a copy/paste list of names.

Wow that's some original thinking you have there.

I already stated that Islam has added to human knowledge. Some individual Muslims have alsi made major contributions.

Islam, as a whole, however, has yet to drag itself from its self imposed dark age.