(January 17, 2016 at 6:05 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

You keep your gawd and other superstitions. We'll just continue on with the science thing, if you don't mind.

continue with science? who you?

somebody with your minds ability that you cant even escape from generalizing population?

do you know what is the secret of science? one thing "splitting knowledge" "dividing thought"

something you have clearly demonstrated you are incapable of doign

if science was dependent on you, we would be back to living in Christian obscurantism minus the morals , which would be some kind of retarded communism without the science

(January 17, 2016 at 5:36 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Look's like you didn't read the article, but just the headline.

You really are a laugh. You just suck at this.

It's patently obvious that the OP either didn't read the linked article, or did not understand it.

(January 17, 2016 at 6:03 am)yukapuka Wrote: Let me put it to you simpletons simply

Scientific study based on empirical evidence is over, finished

it has been finished for a LONG time, now the tests have only confirmed this

empirical evidence based science is OVEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRR!!!!

you need to go deeper into knowledge but that starts with belief in A God

forces that are acting which are not physical and do not have their origins in physically calculated , physically perceived, physical caused forces

people are going to have to accept that there is higher degrees of existence in order to go forwards

believing that everything is physical is to end all arguments into oblivion

empirical science is over, it didnt do anything it didnt answer anything, it didnt find anything and it didnt prove anything

i.e things like natural selection go in the bin and a new thinking is needed and they will HAVE to accept God for that an infinite power that is infinitely intelligent and infinitely conscious of all

You are completely wrong here in every conceivable way.
But even if it was true the default would not be to believe in the fanciful ravings of primitive goat herders which have nothing at all of value going for them.
If you study any of the Abrahamic faiths with an open mind you will see just how preposterous the whole sorry stories are, how incredibly misinformed and worse, boring. But believe whatever stupid thing you like, go ahead its a free country where I live. So feel free to have silly beliefs and I will feel free to laugh at them, fair enough.

(January 17, 2016 at 6:10 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 5:36 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Look's like you didn't read the article, but just the headline.

You really are a laugh. You just suck at this.

It's patently obvious that the OP either didn't read the linked article, or did not understand it.

okay....so explain it to me then genius...lets see how you understood it? take as many lines as needed dont hold anything back

(January 17, 2016 at 5:59 am)SteelCurtain Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 5:51 am)yukapuka Wrote: Okay want me to test you with some questions?

Not even remotely. My ego isn't tied to whether I can pass a test you stole from the internet. You'll understand that one day.

I *really* wouldn't fuck with Steel. He's been sick for how many days now? Dude has to be super cranky by now.

(January 17, 2016 at 6:11 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(January 17, 2016 at 6:03 am)yukapuka Wrote: Let me put it to you simpletons simply

Scientific study based on empirical evidence is over, finished

it has been finished for a LONG time, now the tests have only confirmed this

empirical evidence based science is OVEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRR!!!!

you need to go deeper into knowledge but that starts with belief in A God

forces that are acting which are not physical and do not have their origins in physically calculated , physically perceived, physical caused forces

people are going to have to accept that there is higher degrees of existence in order to go forwards

believing that everything is physical is to end all arguments into oblivion

empirical science is over, it didnt do anything it didnt answer anything, it didnt find anything and it didnt prove anything

i.e things like natural selection go in the bin and a new thinking is needed and they will HAVE to accept God for that an infinite power that is infinitely intelligent and infinitely conscious of all

You are completely wrong here in every conceivable way.
But even if it was true the default would not be to believe in the fanciful ravings of primitive goat herders which have nothing at all of value going for them.
If you study any of the Abrahamic faiths with an open mind you will see just how preposterous the whole sorry stories are, how incredibly misinformed and worse, boring. But believe whatever stupid thing you like, go ahead its a free country where I live. So feel free to have silly beliefs and I will feel free to laugh at them, fair enough.

okay then, lets go with your hypothesis

tell me how we can form ANYTHING based on a universe apportioned out of chaos and random acts?

go ahead, explain how? explain how chaos entropy causes order? not to mention forms and comes into existence into first place? meaning it came out of nothing, formed into disorder of everything and then through attrition and friction causes order and harmony which creates the laws that govern it

please enlighten me , use all the empirical evidence you need

in fact if you can solve this problem, then you can say boldly the claims that you make

Let em put it this way to you because i know that you are unable to answer the question above

the reason that the Arabs as well as the Greeks where able to form the sciences that they formed STEMS deeply and in root of a belief in God and His creation of the whole system

if they didn't believe that God created everything and that there is order and harmony, they couldn't have even begin to start

if you believe that everything was random to begin with and no order and laws governing it

why would you even study it? it was due to the fact of this belief that the Arabs and even Greeks had that allowed them to begin their scientific enquiry in the first place, they believed in laws governing the universe , they believed God allowed them to discover these laws, and hence they went forth discovering them

the Greeks had the belief that everything was made up of four elements and that numbers governed the universe(a kind of jewish kabbalistic belief system) and the Arabs believed also that God created laws and rules that were in exact measured and constant throughout the universe and we can see this in teh QUran where a verse says

"Allah, the lord of the even and the odd numbers"[QUran] which is how one chapter begins

it was THIS belief that allowed scientific enquiry to begin in the first place

if they thought otherwise they wouldn't have even bothered because you cant patent and create patterns and theories on random acts and phenomena which have no continuity and constants

in fact even Newton based all of his theories on the idea that there is order and harmony and patterns in the universe

such as the Universal Gravitation Constant which he discovered, but in order to discover it he couldn't have discovered it without accepting and knowing that ti exists

he began with that G

G *( m1*m2/r^2)

that is how it began, an unknown constant which he knew God created and hence using the algebra of the Arabs and then doing empirical tests to find it and later on throughout history prove it, he came to prove that it exists

Did you really just reboot the same tired nonsense in your new thread? Why, whatever could have gone wrong in the last one?

How many variations on a turd sandwich are you gonna peddle before you realize that no ones interested in swallowing a pile of shit?

(January 17, 2016 at 6:09 am)yukapuka Wrote: continue with science? who you?

somebody with your minds ability that you cant even escape from generalizing population?

do you know what is the secret of science? [...]

Yes, I do. While you - obviously - don't. "Splitting knowledge" "dividing thought"? LOLOLOLOL Those are just meaningless and useless word-farts, that have nothing to do with actual scientific method.

It's not really much of a secret, but dumb people, who can't shake off the delusions and ignorance of their primitive ancestors somehow manage to never learn it. Science works - that's the "secret". Which is why even people who don't believe in science use its products. You're using products of science - if it wasn't for western culture - you'd be living in a tent, sh*ting in a hole in the sand and communicating with other people around the world through shouting angrilly... Wait - that's pretty much what many muslims do, anyway...

Science works, because it demands evidence, instead of mindlessly following some desert-dwelling goat-f*cking pr*ck, who lived and died long time ago. Holy books are useless - except as a tool for tricking primitive people into forfeiting their dignity and free will in exchange for empty promises, from frauds and lunatics, who can't be held responsible anymore, because they're long dead.