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RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 15, 2016 at 2:49 pm
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(January 15, 2016 at 2:33 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (January 15, 2016 at 1:51 pm)Brian37 Wrote: ...Stop projecting your desires of how you think I should view the world...None of that takes my deep appreciation for my Mom, my best friend Bob, my cat, a sunset, a good movie, a good book. How dare you. So it is like I said. You don't actually live like everything is encompassed by scientific knowledge. I'm not trying to 'get into your head'. I'm taking you at your word and holding what you say up in front of you. Maybe you're getting all pissy because you don't like what you see?
NO Chad, your logic is making me pissy. Your childish projecting yourself onto me is making me pissy. If you never spoke to me again my life will continue. I will as I have before you spewed your nonsense, and will still have a deep appreciation for love and art and metaphor, family and friends and nature.
I am sorry you don't like the fact I simply don't chalk reality up to a comic book. That is your baggage, not mine. Grow up. Been online for 15 years, you are not the first to make this stupid argument, and unfortunately you wont be the last.
Now for the last time. I can and do have a deep appreciation for art and metaphor. That does not make me an emotionless robot. But this is it, there is no magic to life. There is no need to turn life into a fantasy.
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RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 15, 2016 at 3:52 pm
(This post was last modified: January 15, 2016 at 3:58 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(January 14, 2016 at 3:36 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (January 14, 2016 at 3:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Why? What is so bad about living in reality?
Because your concept of reality is severely constricted if you actually think that only scientifically verifiable facts count as knowledge. I suspect that while you may profess that, you do not actually live as if that were true.
What about non-reality is knowable? And how do you know that?
I feel sorry for anyone who confuses beliefs and knowledge. That way lies illusion and self-deception.
(January 15, 2016 at 10:54 am)ChadWooters Wrote: (January 14, 2016 at 6:10 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No just the opposite. Scientific method opens doors.
No one is disparaging the modern scientific method or the innumerable technological advances from which we benefit. All I am saying is that life has a qualitative aspect that cannot be analyzed or appreciated on a purely materialistic level. If your only gauge of what counts as reality is your physical and material well-being, then you have summarily discarded the entire world of inner personal life that cannot be reduced to physical facts.
And that is not knowledge, it's belief and emotion.
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RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 15, 2016 at 5:28 pm
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(January 15, 2016 at 1:44 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You're probably better off respecting another users ignore feature Camus.
Perhaps with users who argue on respectful terms...
I wasn't sure how I would have declined, if it wasn't already too late anyway before she put it up.
What is it about that ignore feature which isn't stupid anyway? You either follow the thread, or you don't, doing the former can't be done right when you don't know what others have said. If someone is actually harassing you, then that should be a banning offense. I propose removing the "Ignore" feature, because if you are really intolerant of others having an opinion and too lazy to scan the posts to find out what others are reacting to, then you probably shouldn't be here yourself. Forums don't work like Facebook!
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Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 15, 2016 at 9:35 pm
(January 15, 2016 at 1:44 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You're probably better off respecting another users ignore feature Camus.
Fair enough...:grumble:
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RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 18, 2016 at 1:37 am
(January 15, 2016 at 3:52 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: (January 14, 2016 at 3:36 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Because your concept of reality is severely constricted if you actually think that only scientifically verifiable facts count as knowledge. I suspect that while you may profess that, you do not actually live as if that were true.
What about non-reality is knowable? And how do you know that?
I feel sorry for anyone who confuses beliefs and knowledge. That way lies illusion and self-deception.
(January 15, 2016 at 10:54 am)ChadWooters Wrote: No one is disparaging the modern scientific method or the innumerable technological advances from which we benefit. All I am saying is that life has a qualitative aspect that cannot be analyzed or appreciated on a purely materialistic level. If your only gauge of what counts as reality is your physical and material well-being, then you have summarily discarded the entire world of inner personal life that cannot be reduced to physical facts.
And that is not knowledge, it's belief and emotion.
Are you saying that psychological facts don't count? (Mary's Room, Jackson).
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RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 18, 2016 at 1:40 am
Spiritual knowledge.. well spiritual being that it's coming from a emotion so there
is no knowledge there to be learned. I mean what is spiritual knowledge in the first place
knowledge is knowledge.
On the other hand you have a good definition of knowledge being knowledge about the
world around you and the universe we live in I.E. scientific knowledge. That has hypothesis
and it can be studied, tested, verified. Where as the former spiritual knowledge has none.
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RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 18, 2016 at 1:50 am
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For some folks, it's really important to them that they get to use the word knowledge. If it means they have to refer to their own particular type of knowledge, they will. Essentially they're pointing at a doorknob and calling it a ferrari. Once you realize that, it's pretty easy to work out what they're trying to say.
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RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 18, 2016 at 1:53 am
Having spiritual knowledge is having knowledge in mythology. Nothing more.
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RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 18, 2016 at 2:00 am
(January 18, 2016 at 1:53 am)Kitan Wrote: Having spiritual knowledge is having knowledge in mythology. Nothing more.
As a lover of mythology, I resent the comparison.
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RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 18, 2016 at 2:03 am
(January 18, 2016 at 2:00 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: As a lover of mythology, I resent the comparison.
Be jaded by the truth.
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