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The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
January 22, 2016 at 5:06 pm
(January 22, 2016 at 3:47 pm)Evie Wrote: (January 22, 2016 at 3:28 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: 1. It is possible that a maximally smelly being exists.
2. If it is possible that a maximally smelly being exists, then a maximally smelly being exists is some possible world.
3. If a maximally smelly being exists in some possible world, then it exists in every possible world.
4. If a maximally smelly being exists in every possible world, then it exists in the actual world.
5. If a maximally smelly being exists in the actual world, then a maximally smelly being exists.
6. Therefore, a maximally smelly being exists.
Explain to me the problems with this argument and why they are not the exact same problems your argument faces.
Hahaha. I always found that funny the first few times I read that "smelliness" version of the argument in TGD. Was my favorite book of all time for years, I read TGD over and over so many times the pages wore out and I could paraphrase a good deal of the book onto these forums hehe.
That's awesome! I JUST read TGD for the first time a few months ago and I very much enjoyed it. Do you have any other recommendations, or favorites, Evie?
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RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
January 22, 2016 at 5:12 pm
Quote: 1. It is possible that a maximally smelly being exists.
Do you realize that no where in the NT does fucking jesus ever take a shower?
Smelly hippie.
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RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
January 22, 2016 at 7:25 pm
(January 22, 2016 at 5:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote: 1. It is possible that a maximally smelly being exists.
Do you realize that no where in the NT does fucking jesus ever take a shower?
Smelly hippie.
Just a river baptism with a dude named John (lurid details withheld), and then much later Mary Magdelene had to tie him down so that she could wash his feet when she could no longer stand the smell.
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RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
January 22, 2016 at 7:27 pm
The river is an open pit sewer.
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RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
January 22, 2016 at 7:30 pm
Don't discount the dirt bath.
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RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
January 22, 2016 at 7:35 pm
(January 22, 2016 at 7:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The river is an open pit sewer.
Hey, what's wrong with that? 
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RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
January 23, 2016 at 10:54 pm
(January 22, 2016 at 5:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote: 1. It is possible that a maximally smelly being exists.
Do you realize that no where in the NT does fucking jesus ever take a shower?
Smelly hippie.
He was baptized once. And he had clean feet. He did love perfume.
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RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
February 3, 2016 at 9:32 am
(December 12, 2015 at 1:37 pm)athrock Wrote: I have never seen this argument before, so I'm interested in some discussion of it. A philosopher by the name of Alvin Plantinga states it this way:
The Ontological Argument
- It is possible that a maximally great being exists.
- If it is possible that a maximally great being exists, then a maximally great being exists is some possible world.
- If a maximally great being exists in some possible world, then it exists in every possible world.
- If a maximally great being exists in every possible world, then it exists in the actual world.
- If a maximally great being exists in the actual world, then a maximally great being exists.
- Therefore, a maximally great being exists.
Thoughts?
thoughts..
well, what can one possibly think of this absolute horseshit: "it is possible that a maximally great being exists"..
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RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
February 4, 2016 at 6:20 am
(February 3, 2016 at 9:32 am)Nihilist Wrote: (December 12, 2015 at 1:37 pm)athrock Wrote: I have never seen this argument before, so I'm interested in some discussion of it. A philosopher by the name of Alvin Plantinga states it this way:
The Ontological Argument
- It is possible that a maximally great being exists.
- If it is possible that a maximally great being exists, then a maximally great being exists is some possible world.
- If a maximally great being exists in some possible world, then it exists in every possible world.
- If a maximally great being exists in every possible world, then it exists in the actual world.
- If a maximally great being exists in the actual world, then a maximally great being exists.
- Therefore, a maximally great being exists.
Thoughts?
thoughts..
well, what can one possibly think of this absolute horseshit: "it is possible that a maximally great being exists"..
You're a bit late to the party Nihilist. athrock has long ago revealed himself to be an idiot piece of shit creatard who has studied (to use the word very loosely) under the feet of other piece of shit charlatans like Craig and Habermans and the banana guys.
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RE: The Ontological Argument for the Existence of God
February 4, 2016 at 11:21 am
(January 22, 2016 at 5:12 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote: 1. It is possible that a maximally smelly being exists.
Do you realize that no where in the NT does fucking jesus ever take a shower?
Smelly hippie.
Actually the concept of the value of clean never came from the books of Abraham. When you read those books on the stupid claims they make about eating certain animals alone, it clearly demonstrates they had no clue what bacteria was. Add to that girls/women and periods, again, clearly demonstrates none of those books had any clue of modern biology.
"Clean" as used in those books had to do with purity and arbitrary crap the writers used to justify their gap answers.
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