(January 20, 2016 at 11:11 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(January 20, 2016 at 2:07 pm)abaris Wrote: Why do you even grace him with a reply? Some things are simply not worth bothering with. History has already left a big fat footprint smack in the middle of their faces. Them not learning their lessons just makes them more of an idiot.

But for anyone interested, take it from the horse's mouth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yi9hT8ES2g

That's as good as the shroud of Turin.

Yep, just the decline in the jewish population;  film footage;  eye witness accounts from victims,  perps, bystanders, and rescuers; remains of gas chambers; bones;  diaries; reports.     No real  evidence.

(January 20, 2016 at 11:22 pm)Jenny A Wrote:

(January 20, 2016 at 11:11 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: That's as good as the shroud of Turin.

Yep, just the decline in the jewish population;  film footage;  eye witness accounts from victims,  perps, bystanders, and rescuers; remains of gas chambers; bones;  diaries; reports.     No real  evidence.

In the Bible the Israelites multiplied like rabbits.  They must have used the same magic after WWII.

(January 20, 2016 at 11:03 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(January 20, 2016 at 2:02 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Really? Please tell me you are not a Holocaust denier?

I really hate black and white thinking. Using slavery of your captured has happened since humans started organized war in antiquity. The slave labor was free so it freed up money for other resources. If the Germans had had the resources at a bigger scale and had not had a inept dictator, they would have killed as many as they could. Fortunately for Europe and Jews and the west, we had more power and he ended up committing suicide in a bunker.

No, while our camps were a result of our own bigotry and fear of the Japanese, which certainly was also bad, they were not death camps nor forced labor camps to produce weapons . They were internment camps. No excuse for those either, but not the same as what Hitler did to Jews.


http://la8period3.pbworks.com/w/page/259...nt%20Camps

Didn't you know that we also put Jews in our concentration camps as prisoners?

How, I do know that America denied a boat full of refugees that got turned back and most of the Jews on that boat died in Hitler's death camps. But we certainly didn't have our own death camps in the states. I think maybe you keep confusing "concentration camp" which is a death camp, and mere prison camps which are internment camps where no mass genocide happens. 

If anyone's rhetoric reflects that "we cant have them" here, it would be Donald Trump with Mexicans and Muslims.

(January 21, 2016 at 5:31 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 20, 2016 at 11:03 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Didn't you know that we also put Jews in our concentration camps as prisoners?

How, I do know that America denied a boat full of refugees that got turned back and most of the Jews on that boat died in Hitler's death camps. But we certainly didn't have our own death camps in the states. I think maybe you keep confusing "concentration camp" which is a death camp, and mere prison camps which are internment camps where no mass genocide happens. 

If anyone's rhetoric reflects that "we cant have them" here, it would be Donald Trump with Mexicans and Muslims.

Didn't you know that we sent Jews to Germany in exchange for our folks that were held by the Nazis?  We also did swaps with the Japanese  during the war.

(January 22, 2016 at 12:59 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(January 21, 2016 at 5:31 am)Brian37 Wrote: How, I do know that America denied a boat full of refugees that got turned back and most of the Jews on that boat died in Hitler's death camps. But we certainly didn't have our own death camps in the states. I think maybe you keep confusing "concentration camp" which is a death camp, and mere prison camps which are internment camps where no mass genocide happens. 

If anyone's rhetoric reflects that "we cant have them" here, it would be Donald Trump with Mexicans and Muslims.

Didn't you know that we sent Jews to Germany in exchange for our folks that were held by the Nazis?  We also did swaps with the Japanese  during the war.

Citations needed (from responsible sources, not your conspiracy porn sites).

(January 22, 2016 at 8:22 pm)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:

(January 22, 2016 at 12:59 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Didn't you know that we sent Jews to Germany in exchange for our folks that were held by the Nazis?  We also did swaps with the Japanese  during the war.

Citations needed (from responsible sources, not your conspiracy porn sites).

OK.

"In 1940, the United States government constructed a female correctional facility in Seagoville, Texas, a small town of 700 located approximately twenty miles southeast of Dallas. In April 1942, the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) appropriated the site and operated an internment camp for "enemy aliens." Many internees, though not all, were Japanese and Germans deported from Latin America to the United States. ...

The camp's population changed primarily as a result of repatriation to Germany and Japan. As of April 1943, the camp's population consisted of 200 Japanese and 350 Germans and "other nationals" for a total of 550 internees, internal camp records show. In June 1943, the State Department scheduled the exchange vessel, the Gripsholm, to repatriate 1,500 Japanese to Japan from Seagoville and three other internment camps."

http://encyclopedia.densho.org/Seagovill...facility)/

http://enemyaliens.ca/accueil-home-eng.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/21/nyregi...-camp.html

http://www.jewishpost.com/archives/news/...erica.html

(January 21, 2016 at 5:31 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 20, 2016 at 11:03 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Didn't you know that we also put Jews in our concentration camps as prisoners?

How, I do know that America denied a boat full of refugees that got turned back and most of the Jews on that boat died in Hitler's death camps. But we certainly didn't have our own death camps in the states. I think maybe you keep confusing "concentration camp" which is a death camp, and mere prison camps which are internment camps where no mass genocide happens. 

If anyone's rhetoric reflects that "we cant have them" here, it would be Donald Trump with Mexicans and Muslims.

Concentration camp isn't a death camp. Konzentrationslager isn't a Vernichtungslager. One served to isolate, other just to kill. Also KZ is used as catchall term for Nazi place of imprisonment. 

Building of first Death camps in Bełżec and Chełmno (Kulmhof) started in October of 1941*. Camps that existed earlier served other purposes; mass killing at the time was done by shooting.

*Ch. Browning, [/i]The Origins of the Final Solution. The Evolution of Nazi Jewish Policy, September 1939-March 1942[/i], s. 360 of polish edition.

(January 28, 2016 at 6:56 am)Ivan Denisovich Wrote:

(January 21, 2016 at 5:31 am)Brian37 Wrote:
How, I do know that America denied a boat full of refugees that got turned back and most of the Jews on that boat died in Hitler's death camps. But we certainly didn't have our own death camps in the states. I think maybe you keep confusing "concentration camp" which is a death camp, and mere prison camps which are internment camps where no mass genocide happens. 

If anyone's rhetoric reflects that "we cant have them" here, it would be Donald Trump with Mexicans and Muslims.

Concentration camp isn't a death camp. Konzentrationslager isn't a Vernichtungslager. One served to isolate, other just to kill. Also KZ is used as catchall term for Nazi place of imprisonment. 

Building of first Death camps in Bełżec and Chełmno (Kulmhof) started in October of 1941*. Camps that existed earlier served other purposes; mass killing at the time was done by shooting.

*Ch. Browning, [/i]The Origins of the Final Solution. The Evolution of Nazi Jewish Policy, September 1939-March 1942[/i], s. 360 of polish edition.

Sounds like a bunch of slackers if their intent was to kill off all of the Jews.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ho..._survivors

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