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RE: Theocracy
February 7, 2016 at 6:39 pm
(February 7, 2016 at 6:30 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: A Christian nation is a theocracy by definition.
If they actually said they want this to be a Christian nation, did they actually mean they want it to be a theocracy, though? I highly doubt it.
I get that you guys don't like these people and that you don't like Republicans, but let's be ojective here and not throw around false accusations.
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RE: Theocracy
February 7, 2016 at 6:40 pm
(February 7, 2016 at 6:32 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Mike huckabee and ben Carson certainly do. Rubio seems to think the bible is quite important. Basically anyone who says they're a christian before they're an american, or something like that, basically wants a theocracy. They might not say that word, but if they're trying to put biblical teachings into law, then that's what it leads to. Trust me. there are plenty of people who want this to be an exclusively christian nation.
I'm a Christian before anything else, and I certainly don't want a theocracy. I think you're making a lot of assumptions.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Theocracy
February 7, 2016 at 6:41 pm
(February 7, 2016 at 6:29 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'm not sure what exactly he means by "Christian nation", but like I said, whatever that is it is not the same thing as a theocracy.
He's dropped plenty of hints.
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RE: Theocracy
February 7, 2016 at 6:47 pm
That's an extremely biased news source, and I still didn't see any proof that Cruz wants to make this a theocracy.
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RE: Theocracy
February 7, 2016 at 6:57 pm
(February 7, 2016 at 6:40 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (February 7, 2016 at 6:32 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Mike huckabee and ben Carson certainly do. Rubio seems to think the bible is quite important. Basically anyone who says they're a christian before they're an american, or something like that, basically wants a theocracy. They might not say that word, but if they're trying to put biblical teachings into law, then that's what it leads to. Trust me. there are plenty of people who want this to be an exclusively christian nation.
I'm a Christian before anything else, and I certainly don't want a theocracy. I think you're making a lot of assumptions.
Not all christians agree with you sweety.
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RE: Theocracy
February 7, 2016 at 7:03 pm
(This post was last modified: February 7, 2016 at 7:05 pm by ApeNotKillApe.)
(February 7, 2016 at 6:39 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (February 7, 2016 at 6:30 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: A Christian nation is a theocracy by definition.
If they actually said they want this to be a Christian nation, did they actually mean they want it to be a theocracy, though? I highly doubt it.
I get that you guys don't like these people and that you don't like Republicans, but let's be ojective here and not throw around false accusations.
They haven't said they want it to be a Christian nation, they've said that it is a Christian nation; I've already pointed out to you that in that video, Rubio made the claim that the constitution is founded on Christian principles, a claim numerous teabaggers have made, which is both a lie and an endorsement of the idea of rule by God, the definition of theocracy. Their platforms are based on religious principles, defunding Planned Parenthood, forbidding abortion, overturning same-sex marriage, the denial of climate change made by numerous senators is made vocal on religious grounds. These people want America to be a theocracy in all but name.
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RE: Theocracy
February 7, 2016 at 7:04 pm
There are Constitutional safeguards against the Christers actually following through on their promises. It might not be a bad idea to have them try, given that it would lay down case law in all likelihood under the current SCOTUS.
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Theocracy
February 7, 2016 at 7:07 pm
(February 7, 2016 at 5:48 pm)loganonekenobi Wrote: All of the repulicant candidates are trying to appeal to the religious conservatives.
Is that a surprise? I would be too. Whatever it takes.
I don't think Trump is interested in a theocracy.
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RE: Theocracy
February 7, 2016 at 7:08 pm
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Trump would be God of his theocracy .
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RE: Theocracy
February 7, 2016 at 7:12 pm
(February 7, 2016 at 6:57 pm)Chad32 Wrote: (February 7, 2016 at 6:40 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'm a Christian before anything else, and I certainly don't want a theocracy. I think you're making a lot of assumptions.
Not all christians agree with you sweety.
You're the one who said "anyone who says they are Christian before they are American want a theocracy." My post was in response to that.
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