(February 18, 2016 at 10:32 am)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(February 18, 2016 at 10:30 am)Brian37 Wrote: We are individuals first is word salad? We are the same species is word salad? OK.

I highly doubt it that you're the same species as me. I think you're an SJW alien from another galaxy.

Ok, so you don't like me, big whoopty shit. 7 billion humans, imagine that, we wont always like each other or only say nice things about each other. But we are not only the same species, we are also made up of atoms.

So please by all means prove to me that "fear them all" is a good tactic.

Strawman.

And I like you. I just think you're making a big deal out of nothing. I would never talk about muslims elsewhere like I do here, because I know how unlikely it is here that what I'll say is going to be misunderstood and make some bigot do something regretable in the future. I am sorry that some part of that group makes the rest look bad, but the fact is, that part of that group is bad, and we should aknowledge that and deal with it to the best of our abilities. Not freak out about it and wash our white guilt with bullshit like you do. You're all very good at defending minorities in speech, but that means fuckall in the real world. And unlike you, I never say something just to look good. And I think we both know you're arguing here just to polish your own image, not against anything real.

(February 18, 2016 at 10:40 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: Strawman.

Cut the crap. No "strawman".

We are the same species. Science proves that. Sorry that bothers you.

There is a HUGE difference between saying " Your holy book is used to justify violence".

AND.

"Lets scare the shit out of everyone needlessly" Which is the bullshit humans of all labels buy into.

Now again, show me how "fear them all" works. 

Otherwise I will treat you as the bigot you are proving yourself to be.

(February 18, 2016 at 10:49 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(February 18, 2016 at 10:40 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: Strawman.

Cut the crap. No "strawman".

We are the same species. Science proves that. Sorry that bothers you.

There is a HUGE difference between saying " Your holy book is used to justify violence".

AND.

"Lets scare the shit out of everyone needlessly" Which is the bullshit humans of all labels buy into.

Now again, show me how "fear them all" works. 

Otherwise I will treat you as the bigot you are proving yourself to be.

(Emph)

I never said anything of the sort. That's your strawman.

(February 18, 2016 at 10:51 am)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(February 18, 2016 at 10:49 am)Brian37 Wrote: Cut the crap. No "strawman".

We are the same species. Science proves that. Sorry that bothers you.

There is a HUGE difference between saying " Your holy book is used to justify violence".

AND.

"Lets scare the shit out of everyone needlessly" Which is the bullshit humans of all labels buy into.

Now again, show me how "fear them all" works. 

Otherwise I will treat you as the bigot you are proving yourself to be.

(Emph)

I never said anything of the sort. That's your strawman.

Fine, then exactly what is your position on refugees, because if it is "fuck em all, deport em all" because of the actions of some, then you are proving me right. 

If not, then pony up with what you think is a valid solution to moving the Middle East away from Quran based theocracies and fascism. 

You are not a bigot. Ok, then what is your solution, feel free to correct me.

(February 18, 2016 at 10:56 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(February 18, 2016 at 10:51 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: (Emph)

I never said anything of the sort. That's your strawman.

Fine, then exactly what is your position on refugees, because if it is "fuck em all, deport em all" because of the actions of some, then you are proving me right. 

If not, then pony up with what you think is a valid solution to moving the Middle East away from Quran based theocracies and fascism. 

You are not a bigot. Ok, then what is your solution, feel free to correct me.

My position is you're hysterical.

As for the complex issue you're asking about, I haven't the slightest. Noises is all I can make, same as you.

(February 18, 2016 at 10:59 am)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(February 18, 2016 at 10:56 am)Brian37 Wrote: Fine, then exactly what is your position on refugees, because if it is "fuck em all, deport em all" because of the actions of some, then you are proving me right. 

If not, then pony up with what you think is a valid solution to moving the Middle East away from Quran based theocracies and fascism. 

You are not a bigot. Ok, then what is your solution, feel free to correct me.

My position is you're hysterical.

As for the complex issue you're asking about, I haven't the slightest. Noises is all I can make, same as you.

Post #4

YOU Wrote:Do we blame the nazis? Were they all bad people? That's what you sound like to me. I don't think we should hate muslims but I do think we should be careful when opening Europe up to an extremely different culture like that.

Sounds like "I don't think we should hate all blacks, but some are thugs", sounds like "I don't hate gays, I simply don't want to hear about it".

Now, again, you missed the part where I said I was not ignoring that Islam in the east is far too political and theocratic and the morality used to govern IS coming from the words in the Quran.

You used the word "Nazi" not me. What was the point in using that word?

That would be like me saying "My neighbors are Hispanic and because they are, they could be potential El Chopos".

If it smells like presumption of guilt, it stinks of presumption of guilt, and just admit that is what you did, or the word "Nazi" wouldn't have been used. 

I gave you a way to combat religiously justified cruelty and you can do that without being an asshole.

Attack the claim, the idea the politics and point out the source of where the justifications come from. I agree with that part. But I will not fall for your coded language which is really nothing but buying and selling fear.