(February 18, 2016 at 12:11 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: Brian, you're hysterical as fuck. I don't think we really disagree about anything, not really. You're just hysterical and I feed you the bullshit you want to hear to annoy you. Get a grip and act like an adult.

Yeah, we get it.  Your responses to this OP clearly show that you didn't even read the OP.  You were just trying to be inflammatory, nit-pick, and cause trouble as usual.  And you tell Brian to act like an adult?  Your behavior on this forum leads most people think that you're a very pampered, egotistical, 12-year-old brat.  You never write anything of substance, you just hunt for things to criticize and insult, to get a response.

(February 18, 2016 at 12:14 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(February 18, 2016 at 12:12 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Shall I post once again your use of the word "Nazi", I am quite sure all Muslims like being equated to Nazis.

I was wrong to do that. But you're still not making any sense. I don't even know what you're arguing here, really.

Yep, and that is why I blocked the fucker on twitter, because he did the same thing, equated Muslims to Nazis. Thank you for admitting you shouldn't have done that. So exactly how was I being "hysterical"?

You are almost there.

(February 18, 2016 at 12:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(February 18, 2016 at 12:14 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: I was wrong to do that. But you're still not making any sense. I don't even know what you're arguing here, really.

Yep, and that is why I blocked the fucker on twitter, because he did the same thing, equated Muslims to Nazis. Thank you for admitting you shouldn't have done that. So exactly how was I being "hysterical"?

You are almost there.

Almost there?   

What is your point here?

(February 18, 2016 at 12:28 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(February 18, 2016 at 12:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yep, and that is why I blocked the fucker on twitter, because he did the same thing, equated Muslims to Nazis. Thank you for admitting you shouldn't have done that. So exactly how was I being "hysterical"?

You are almost there.

Almost there?   

What is your point here?

If you admit you were wrong for using the word "Nazi" then it shouldn't be that hard to understand calling me "hysterical" for my OP is flat out logically speaking wrong, because that is the reason I blocked the idiot on twitter. He called me a terrorist sympathizer and I would agree that Nazis were terrorists too. He also used the same "Nazi" argument. An he did so after I told him I had female family members who were raped and completely ignored that too.

And again, the worst part was that I wasn't even arguing to ignore the climate of Islam in the middle east or that the fact they get their morality out of the Quran. 

All I have been arguing in this thread, is the difference between attacking bad logic which can lead to harm to others. And the wrong response of buying and selling fear in response to others.

I'm not advocating buying and selling fear. Now stop calling people bigots for no reason.

(February 18, 2016 at 12:42 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: I'm not advocating buying and selling fear. Now stop calling people bigots for no reason.

"Nazi" is the word you used. Which you said you were sorry for doing, good. But doesn't change that is how you responded initially.

And you also said you were "concerned" about the influx of refugees into Europe, am I incorrect about that?

Combine the two, it sure looks bad from my point of view.

Now again, if you really think you are not buying or selling fear, great.

Then the better tactic isn't to put it like you just did, but to attack the idea as a claim, point out the source of that claim. And better yet, offer a solution of what you think might help not only Europe, but Muslims as well.

(February 18, 2016 at 12:50 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(February 18, 2016 at 12:42 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: I'm not advocating buying and selling fear. Now stop calling people bigots for no reason.

"Nazi" is the word you used. Which you said you were sorry for doing, good. But doesn't change that is how you responded initially.

And you also said you were "concerned" about the influx of refugees into Europe, am I incorrect about that?

Combine the two, it sure looks bad from my point of view.

Now again, if you really think you are not buying or selling fear, great.

Then the better tactic isn't to put it like you just did, but to attack the idea as a claim, point out the source of that claim. And better yet, offer a solution of what you think might help not only Europe, but Muslims as well.

I am concerned with the influx of refugees and that doesn't make me a bigot.

(February 18, 2016 at 12:51 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:

(February 18, 2016 at 12:50 pm)Brian37 Wrote: "Nazi" is the word you used. Which you said you were sorry for doing, good. But doesn't change that is how you responded initially.

And you also said you were "concerned" about the influx of refugees into Europe, am I incorrect about that?

Combine the two, it sure looks bad from my point of view.

Now again, if you really think you are not buying or selling fear, great.

Then the better tactic isn't to put it like you just did, but to attack the idea as a claim, point out the source of that claim. And better yet, offer a solution of what you think might help not only Europe, but Muslims as well.

I am concerned with the influx of refugees and that doesn't make me a bigot.

Ugggggggggg!

It does make you sound like one putting the word "Nazi" in your argument.

Ok, fine, still does not change that you cannot nor should allow your "concern" to override your empathy for your fellow human. Now, again, I hear you say you are not a bigot. Fine, but please, protesting like you have been isn't showing me you know the difference between bad logic, and pointing out the source of where that bad logic is being justified and responding to bad logic with fear. It seems to me dragging it out makes you sound like you are saving face after the fact.

I am concerned about ALL religions globally having weapons and having power and control over political systems myself. Now stop and think before you respond. I blame all three religions for not recognizing the elephant in the room, religion itself. Approaching it from a claims tactic, allows you to point out the problem, without coming across the way you did.

My solution to all this is simple, not that the problem isn't complex and will be magically solved overnight, but just like you fix a car, you don't start out by dismantling the entire complex engine, but the simply idea that you start with the most likely solution which will most likely be the one with the least baggage.

And if more humans start with the attitude we are all humans, that can if more people take that view, undermine the complexities religion sets up and hides behind. All religions.

But, to add to that, I also look at it this way too in combo with what I just said. I would rather let 10 guilty people go free than to convict one innocent person wrongly. I have the same attitude about Hispanic migrants and Muslim refugees. I refuse to assume the worst as a default. 

You can have that "concern" but do it the right way. If your "concern" isn't bigotry, then don't add to the fear by putting it the way you did at first.

What you just sounded like to me.


AAAAAAAA. Yes. Oh, lol. Jajajajaja. Muslims... Yeaaaah. Right. OK. You bigot. No? No bigot. Bigot.

(February 18, 2016 at 1:25 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote: What you just sounded like to me.


AAAAAAAA. Yes. Oh, lol. Jajajajaja. Muslims... Yeaaaah. Right. OK. You bigot. No? No bigot. Bigot.

Once again, exactly how is " we are all humans first" word salad?

We can literally scientifically prove through DNA that we are all related.

Someone keeps protesting too much, digging themselves in deeper, not even seeing that is exactly what they look like.