(March 11, 2011 at 2:13 pm)binny Wrote: I miss Keith.

Binny!

Same He was freakin entertaining.

(March 11, 2011 at 2:20 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Im with void on this one min. This is very much fascism. But I can see some of what you are saying min..many libertarians voted these people into power thinking they were for lesser government. I imagine many "true" libertarians cringing at this right now..but the neo-theo-cons, fascists, meritocritists, plutocrats, cleptocrats, corporatists, and all other "ists" and "ats" on the right wing authoritarian side of politics are jacking their shit HARD over this bill and laughing at us peasants right now.

They were plainly lied to, they should have known better, after all the Republicans always bitch about less government and then go and do the fucking complete opposite.

I hope the fuckers wake up and see the chains they've strapped themselves into.

(March 11, 2011 at 2:25 pm)Chuck Wrote: You have to understand that large proportion of self-styled libertarian in the US appear to be moronic enthusiasts prone to espousing ideologies without exhibiting the slightest hint of the ability to correlate, much less match, behavior to ideology. They would gladly be fishes in a barrel for anyone paying the most superficial and cynical lip service to their ideology while pursuing a dismetrically opposite agenda. So taken together as self-style political body, the libertarians conjures up a much different image then is reflected in your description. For those who oppose conservative authoritarianism and its tendency to protect settled wealth and previlige at the expense of equitable social mobility, libertarians as a body in the US could be expected to offer far more opposition then assistance.

I completely agree, they're the same dumb fucks who fall for the religious crap hook, line and sinker by and large, then again they vote for those who they think are closest aligned to their ideals from the limited available options, conservative are doing no worse in that respect than the Dems who people on the left voted for - Obama escalated the war in Afghanistan, bailed out corporations, the repeal of Don't ask don't tell is a complete sham, he extended the bush tax-cuts, he failed to effectively weigh in on the Union debates, failure to get single payer healthcare and numerous other things.

More libertarians are getting into government though, people like Rand and Ron who actually stick to their principles and push for what they were elected to do - The same can't be said for the idealists on the left who have if anything seen the political influence move away from them.

I. HATE. THE. REPUBLICAN. PARTY!

This scheme reminds me of the old Roman Dictator system where special privileges were given to a magistrate to solve a crisis.

(March 11, 2011 at 2:33 pm)theVOID Wrote: I completely agree, they're the same dumb fucks who fall for the religious crap hook, line and sinker by and large, then again they vote for those who they think are closest aligned to their ideals from the limited available options, conservative are doing no worse in that respect than the Dems who people on the left voted for - Obama escalated the war in Afghanistan, bailed out corporations, the repeal of Don't ask don't tell is a complete sham, he extended the bush tax-cuts, he failed to effectively weigh in on the Union debates, failure to get single payer healthcare and numerous other things.

More libertarians are getting into government though, people like Rand and Ron who actually stick to their principles and push for what they were elected to do - The same can't be said for the idealists on the left who have if anything seen the political influence move away from them.

Obama at least was trying to solve some problems, the war in afghanistan escalated because he wants to exit it, he was forced to extend the tax cuts, and i think repealing a stupid law like DADT is excellent

There is no left in america

(March 11, 2011 at 4:26 pm)Ashendant Wrote: There is no left in america

There hasn't been a left in America since the 70's. Probably a little bit earlier than that.

Probably because every time someone makes a minor left-wing turn, everyone loses their damn heads over "socialism nazi communists!!!111"

I tells ya, profiteering off of news is going to be the death of America, at least what we think it is.

(March 11, 2011 at 7:30 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote:

(March 11, 2011 at 4:26 pm)Ashendant Wrote: There is no left in america

There hasn't been a left in America since the 70's. Probably a little bit earlier than that.

Probably because every time someone makes a minor left-wing turn, everyone loses their damn heads over "socialism nazi communists!!!111"

I tells ya, profiteering off of news is going to be the death of America, at least what we think it is.

You cant even be moderately right wing..they call you a RINO. And if you are slightly getting close to the center then you are a "Marxist Nazi".

So tired of politics in America.. seems that hate will rule the day. As long as greed is king, then the authoritarian right will rule the Reps and the Dems.

The ideal of America is looooooooooooong dead. The current version killed it, after keeping it in a hole in its basement. Now the current America is wearing old America's skin like some morbid suit, and it's telling everyone that it's the real America.

I am not upset.

(March 12, 2011 at 12:36 am)lrh9 Wrote: I am not upset.

You definitely don't look upset...thats for sure.