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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 24, 2016 at 12:18 am
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(March 24, 2016 at 12:00 am)Godschild Wrote: Child prove it's a fairy tale.
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It's in a book of fairy tales. There proven.
Now you have to prove that the book of fairy tales isn't fairy tales. Oh and if you're going to say "GOD SAID SO" you have to actually prove that he said it, not that someone else said that he said it because that's hearsay.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 24, 2016 at 12:21 am
(March 23, 2016 at 8:47 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (March 16, 2016 at 10:47 pm)Godschild Wrote: Biblical support please? They knew they had a responsibility to obey God, God told Adam, Adam told Eve, and Eve told the serpent.
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Sorry if this has been covered already; I'm just popping in now: How did Adam and Eve know it was wrong to disobey God before they ate from the tree of knowledge? Why did God give the serpent crafty attributes?
Because they both acknowledge they understood it was wrong by acknowledging the knew they would be punished. Who said God the serpent crafty attributes, the serpent was Satan, the father of lying.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 24, 2016 at 12:23 am
(March 24, 2016 at 12:18 am)Cecelia Wrote: (March 24, 2016 at 12:00 am)Godschild Wrote: Child prove it's a fairy tale.
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It's in a book of fairy tales. There proven.
Now you have to prove that the book of fairy tales isn't fairy tales. Oh and if you're going to say "GOD SAID SO" you have to actually prove that he said it, not that someone else said that he said it because that's hearsay.
You'v made a broad statement about a book you know nothing about. A statement is not proof, try again.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 24, 2016 at 12:29 am
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(March 24, 2016 at 12:23 am)Godschild Wrote: You'v made a broad statement about a book you know nothing about. A statement is not proof, try again.
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Prove that it's not a fairy tale. In fact prove that all the other religions in the world aren't true while you're at it. You consider them not true as much as we consider yours not true.
All you've done is shift the burden of proof. It's not on us. It's on you. You have to prove that your stories actually happened. We don't have to prove they didn't happen.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 24, 2016 at 12:55 am
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(March 24, 2016 at 12:00 am)Godschild Wrote: (March 22, 2016 at 10:00 pm)IATIA Wrote: It is obvious that you do not understand what free will is and will never know as long as your god has you under it's thumb. You believe faery tales are real and I am childish?
Child prove it's a fairy tale.
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How so very christian of you. It is your attitude that gives us the confirmation that christian is just another word for dick.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 24, 2016 at 2:00 am
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Question for all theists:
If you're presented with a random story, how do you go about determining whether or not it might be a real story? How would you teach a child to tell the difference?
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 24, 2016 at 2:40 am
(March 24, 2016 at 12:00 am)Godschild Wrote: (March 22, 2016 at 10:00 pm)IATIA Wrote: It is obvious that you do not understand what free will is and will never know as long as your god has you under it's thumb. You believe faery tales are real and I am childish?
Child prove it's a fairy tale.
GC Even the Bible says that people shouldn't believe in Jewish religious fairy tales.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 24, 2016 at 4:18 am
(March 24, 2016 at 12:02 am)Godschild Wrote: (March 22, 2016 at 11:01 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Most Southern Baptists are in the southern United States, which is where most executions take place, and most Southern Baptists are Republicans, who support capital punishment. As for DNA "having limits", what scientific paper can you cite in support of that?
Dino DNA, DNA can not last that long, this is a fact.
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This is just absurd; you're missing the whole point:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve
You can't have it "both ways"; either DNA evidence is completely bogus in a court of law or the Bible is false.
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RE: Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 24, 2016 at 4:37 am
There is a magical third option...
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Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense
March 24, 2016 at 7:32 am
(March 24, 2016 at 12:21 am)Godschild Wrote: (March 23, 2016 at 8:47 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Sorry if this has been covered already; I'm just popping in now: How did Adam and Eve know it was wrong to disobey God before they ate from the tree of knowledge? Why did God give the serpent crafty attributes?
Because they both acknowledge they understood it was wrong by acknowledging the knew they would be punished. Who said God the serpent crafty attributes, the serpent was Satan, the father of lying.
GC
They couldn't have understood the difference between write and wrong...but never mind, it's been discussed ad nauseam. Nowhere in the OT does it say they the serpent was Satan...I don't believe.
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