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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
April 12, 2016 at 8:29 pm
(April 12, 2016 at 2:48 pm)Divinity Wrote: (March 31, 2016 at 8:28 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
My youngest daughter recently asked me: "If something created the Universe, why would it have to be God?"
Magic Universe Creating Pixies is just as good of an explanation.
Vera causa* - The principle holds that explaining a particular effect or event requires the sufficiency to produce the phenomenon in question.
* “A fairy godmother may be assigned in story as the cause of certain marvelous effects, but is not a
vera causa." http://www.seadict.com/en/en/vera%20causa
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
April 13, 2016 at 11:42 am
What a load of cobblers.
There are different categories of made up bullshit now?
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
April 13, 2016 at 8:31 pm
(April 12, 2016 at 8:29 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Vera causa* - The principle holds that explaining a particular effect or event requires the sufficiency to produce the phenomenon in question.
* “A fairy godmother may be assigned in story as the cause of certain marvelous effects, but is not a vera causa." http://www.seadict.com/en/en/vera%20causa
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
April 14, 2016 at 8:05 am
A fairie is not that which the greater than which cannot be conceived.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
April 14, 2016 at 9:28 am
(This post was last modified: April 14, 2016 at 11:44 am by robvalue.)
"Can be conceived of" is rather subjective.
If it can be described at all, it's usually pretty easy to conceive of something greater. I certainly have no trouble.
Or a crappy god could just make followers who can't conceive of anything greater than it. Same difference.
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RE: What would you consider to be evidence for God?
April 14, 2016 at 1:40 pm
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What would I consider to be evidence for God? Well it depends on what God, doesn't it? If there was suddenly a video recording of a giant creature rising from the sea with male torso holding a trident in his hands and fish lower body I wouldn't think it was evidence for God Adoni, now wouldn't I? Or evidence for monkey-god Hanuman would I guess be a sudden appearance of giant banana in the sky and perhaps rain of coconuts - or is it too racist toward monkeys?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
