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Dr. Craig is a liar.
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  Quote:Related to the question why God cannot do logically impossible things, God would not be able to do things contrary to his nature. What is "God's" nature? How do you know?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(May 11, 2016 at 12:55 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(May 11, 2016 at 12:46 pm)SteveII Wrote: Why do you think God needs to "think" about anything prior to creation? Wait a minute. Aren't you the one that just claimed that logic and reason are constructs of humans and limited to our universe? How do these then apply to discussing God prior to the universe? I am not making assertions. I am defending the inferences made by the KCA. RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
May 11, 2016 at 7:17 pm
(This post was last modified: May 11, 2016 at 7:22 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
No, you're not defending any inference made by the KCA..because you're talking about a god, and the KCA doesn't make god inferences, remember? That's for "other arguments".
As to the question above...it;s just another 180. -We- don't know that logical limits (or any limits) apply to god, -you- asserted that they did.
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(May 11, 2016 at 1:44 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: @steve No offense taken. Thanks though. (May 11, 2016 at 3:28 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(May 11, 2016 at 2:24 pm)SteveII Wrote: You are right. It concludes an uncaused cause, timeless, immaterial, personal and powerful enough to create something from nothing. You use other arguments from natural theology to conclude other properties or characteristics. It means nothing compelled God to create the universe. It was a free act not determined by something other than God. Without this concept, there would have been no creative event. RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
May 11, 2016 at 7:24 pm
(This post was last modified: May 11, 2016 at 7:26 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
That's what the term personal means? LOL........holy shit.
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 (May 11, 2016 at 7:12 pm)SteveII Wrote:(May 11, 2016 at 12:46 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: "God can do anything" Same thing. What things are there besides logically possible things? None, by definition.  (May 11, 2016 at 7:11 pm)SteveII Wrote:(May 11, 2016 at 12:29 pm)wiploc Wrote: Your god is finite, then. If god become temporal and time began 13.8 billions years ago, then if god is omniscient, then all future events, from god's perspective, constitutes an actual infinite set, correct? |
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