(May 16, 2016 at 9:36 am)SofaKingHigh Wrote:

(May 16, 2016 at 9:34 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: LOL!  [emoji106]

Sorry LFC, I know I lowered myself there.....but, as a joke, it is quite funny. :-)

Oh, I don't discriminate against a good funny joke, no worries. I'm not one of those, "It's NEVER funny to joke about ______!" My favorite comedian of all time is Louie CK, and he does more rape jokes than any comedian I know of, haha. Funny is funny. [emoji41]

(May 15, 2016 at 9:35 pm)pool the great Wrote:

(May 15, 2016 at 8:28 pm)Irrational Wrote: From personal observations, it is rare for a misogynist to be explicit about hating women. Most cases, it's subtle. The evidence is shown in other things they say.

I wholeheartedly agree. Shaming women for being housewives, shaming men for making women happy, these subtle misogynistic people go unnoticed far too often.  

Who the fuck has ever shamed a woman for being a housewife in this thread or on this forum?

As for the other part, I don't want to speak for all women but I don't need anyone man or woman to make me happy, true happiness comes from within. I would never shame a man for going out of his way to try to make a woman happy so long as he's actually doing it for her. A neat thing you can do is get to know someone and actually ask them what they want. I know I sure as fuck don't want to be a housewife. It's not even because I don't like housewife duties; I love cooking and cleaning. I probably love cleaning a little too much, but that's getting off track. I just don't want to be a housewife because my work makes me feel validated as a person. Staying at home being treated like a princess by a guy who thinks I watch tv all day and the baseboards scrub themselves. Yuck. Thinking most women want that is naive to a ridiculous degree. Thinking even most women in India want that is ridiculous. Children shouldn't be raised to believe that any specific traits will define their value as adults. They should be raised to believe that working hard at whatever makes them happy defines their value, they define their own value. In India little girls are raised to believe their value is dependent on being a good housewife. It's not to say people specifically tell them that and I think that's why you're confused. It's that children learn so so much more than just what people tell them. They're a lot smarter than people give them credit for and they are paying attention. They always are.

Well said.

(May 16, 2016 at 6:20 am)pool the great Wrote: Holy shit.
Be wary folks, you can't even call a woman beautiful without risking being a woman hater.

I don't know if I should be laughing at this level of stupidity or feeling sad for humanity and crying in despair.  

Tell me this Irrational, last day as I was walking down the street and I plucked a beautiful flower. You know, I could've embraced the flower for facilitating pollination, I could've embraced flowers for being edible and helping fill some people's stomach, I could've appreciated the flower for freshening the air - instead I chose to be oh such a shallow asshole and plucked a flower just because it was beautiful,is there something wrong with me Irrational?  
Am I being discriminated against flowers, Irrational?
Am I objectifying flowers, Irrational?

Women are like flowers. We like flowers because they are pretty. We like them because they smell nice. We never have to stop to bother wondering if the flower has wants or needs or desires or thoughts. We just like them because they're so durn pretty. Every morning we put them in a fresh vase with clean water and we say "you're a good flower, you're so pretty" because someone once said flowers are healthy when we say nice things to them. We don't really know for sure if it's true because we're pretty sure flowers are incapable of thinking, but gosh they sure are pretty.

(May 16, 2016 at 6:59 am)pool the great Wrote:

(May 16, 2016 at 6:47 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I don't understand your point.

If you don't understand the point of me pointing out a historical suffrage of men, then I don't understand the point of you pointing out a historical suffrage of women,either.
What kind of response were you expecting to your pointing out the historical suffrage of women not being able to vote?

Pool you do realize that those wars fought by men were also started by men in a world ruled by men, right?

(May 16, 2016 at 10:16 am)Losty Wrote:

(May 15, 2016 at 9:35 pm)pool the great Wrote: I wholeheartedly agree. Shaming women for being housewives, shaming men for making women happy, these subtle misogynistic people go unnoticed far too often.  

Who the fuck has ever shamed a woman for being a housewife in this thread or on this forum?

As for the other part, I don't want to speak for all women but I don't need anyone man or woman to make me happy, true happiness comes from within. I would never shame a man for going out of his way to try to make a woman happy so long as he's actually doing it for her. A neat thing you can do is get to know someone and actually ask them what they want. I know I sure as fuck don't want to be a housewife. It's not even because I don't like housewife duties; I love cooking and cleaning. I probably love cleaning a little too much, but that's getting off track. I just don't want to be a housewife because my work makes me feel validated as a person. Staying at home being treated like a princess by a guy who thinks I watch tv all day and the baseboards scrub themselves. Yuck. Thinking most women want that is naive to a ridiculous degree. Thinking even most women in India want that is ridiculous. Children shouldn't be raised to believe that any specific traits will define their value as adults. They should be raised to believe that working hard at whatever makes them happy defines their value, they define their own value. In India little girls are raised to believe their value is dependent on being a good housewife. It's not to say people specifically tell them that and I think that's why you're confused. It's that children learn so so much more than just what people tell them. They're a lot smarter than people give them credit for and they are paying attention. They always are.

Yeah, I mean, it feels like Pool has all these preconceived notions about what women think and feel, but this is EXACTLY what he hates about male stereotypes.

You go Losty! You're kicking fucking ass here!

(May 16, 2016 at 10:25 am)Losty Wrote:

(May 16, 2016 at 6:59 am)pool the great Wrote: If you don't understand the point of me pointing out a historical suffrage of men, then I don't understand the point of you pointing out a historical suffrage of women,either.
What kind of response were you expecting to your pointing out the historical suffrage of women not being able to vote?

Pool you do realize that those wars fought by men were also started by men in a world ruled by men, right?

Yeah, but they would never have gotten into all that mess if it weren't for those pesky women, with their beauty, brains, boobs and blood (from this day forth, we will refer to these traits as the 4 B's).

Don't forget Eve.