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Why Bran?

Littlefinger didn't come to Winterfell with the king, did he? Was he still in King's landing? Did he know that Bran was hurt? Would he have hired the assassin early enough to send him with the king's entourage? Would Littlefinger have targeted Bran back when Bran was healthy?

Or was it just a coincidence that Tommen hired Bran's death when Lyssa's letter was already enroute?

(June 2, 2016 at 1:01 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Littlefinger wants as much power as everyone, but he knows he could never rule the Seven Kingdoms. He is trying to raise his station--yes, and maybe he can marry a ruler in order to come as close to that as possible, but he'll never sit the iron throne, and he knows that.

I think his goal is to remove the aristocracy and the throne altogether. He is Lord of Harrenhal. He has installed himself as de facto ruler of the Vale.

Interesting. 

He could see himself as Lord of Harrenhal and lord of the Vale and whatchamacall it, Warden of the East? 

And he could see himself as Sansa's husband, and--if things break right--thereby the King in the North. 

If he might wind up with both the East and the North, then I'm not convinced he doesn't have his eye on the iron throne.  But I grant you that he'd have been willing to start this war for any one of these lesser goals, and that he might be happy to settle for any one of the lesser goals if a shot at the iron throne doesn't manifest. 

Oh!  He may be in Harrenhal when the dragons return. 

I just have a hard time believing this spoiled little kid -all that Joffrey was then- would have the wherewithal to try an off Bran. Besides his beef was with Arya. In the TV series at least (I can't recall about the books any longer), I think Cersie and Jamie discussed the need to do so.

Joffrey wasn't some intelligent kid with any sort of wherewithal. He was a spoiled but neglected kid with some genetics-related violence problems who wanted to impress his very powerful dad.

(June 2, 2016 at 10:14 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: I just have a hard time believing this spoiled little kid -all that Joffrey was then- would have the wherewithal to try an off Bran. Besides his beef was with Arya. In the TV series at least (I can't recall about the books any longer), I think Cersie and Jamie discussed the need to do so.

His beef wasn't with Arya yet, though. The incident with the butcher's son happens on the road back to King's Landing. Also, Cersei and Jamie discuss the identity of the catspaw with each other in book two. They don't know who did it.

He was a spoiled child that never got any attention or validation from his dad. He overhears Robert saying that it would be kinder to put the boy out of his misery, and then tells the Hound to arrange it. That makes sense to me.

Littlefinger is far more cut-throat in the show than in the books. In the books his unending love for Catelyn is far more apparent. He would never harm Catelyn by murdering her child. Especially as he had no input or control over the things that followed. He does not kill indiscriminately, he kills to protect. Ser Dontos could have put everything in jeopardy, and Lysa was putting Sansa in jeopardy. He protects his investments. He does not marry Sansa to the Boltons. The Lannisters put up Jeyne Poole as an impostor Arya and arrange that marriage. In fact, he plans to marry Sansa to the lordling Robert Arryn's heir, the dashing and handsome Harrold Hardyng. Since Robert is a weak child and unlikely to produce an heir, Sansa would have a clear path to regaining Winterfell from the Boltons with the Lord protector of the Vale as her husband.

(June 2, 2016 at 10:18 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Joffrey wasn't some intelligent kid with any sort of wherewithal. He was a spoiled but neglected kid with some genetics-related violence problems who wanted to impress his very powerful dad.

Ezzactly. Missed this before, good sir.

Hopefully we'll see the Hound again in the show. He might be digging his own grave somewhere's.

(June 4, 2016 at 2:22 am)SteelCurtain Wrote:

(June 2, 2016 at 10:18 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Joffrey wasn't some intelligent kid with any sort of wherewithal. He was a spoiled but neglected kid with some genetics-related violence problems who wanted to impress his very powerful dad.

Ezzactly. Missed this before, good sir.

Hopefully we'll see the Hound again in the show. He might be digging his own grave somewhere's.

https://youtu.be/KXsR_kv4hyU

(June 4, 2016 at 4:58 am)Aegon Wrote:

(June 4, 2016 at 2:22 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Ezzactly. Missed this before, good sir.

Hopefully we'll see the Hound again in the show. He might be digging his own grave somewhere's.

https://youtu.be/KXsR_kv4hyU